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Today we are having a special guest her name is Shelagh, She is into “Investigating Spiritual Pathways And Timing Your Personal Development”. Her spiritual name is Amadai She is a Psychic and an astrologer.
Today’s podcast is a special one because in at this podcast she is reading my chart based on astrological understandings of the east. According to the discussions which we had We are sure that we are going to do something in at the direction of clubbing Vedic and western astrology together.
However, lets begin our podcast Series Episode No-1 Astrology of east and west. You could connect with her using this link which is given here. http://www.psychicreadings-amadai.com/
Below is a non verbal transcript for the same.
so
here uh we are having uh sheila she’s
all the way from france um she
all the time i’m creating the horoscope
for the people
on my podcast but today she is gonna
read my podcast for all of us
um yeah sheila
can you just explain i mean
just a few words about you who you are
and things like that
and we can just straight up to go to my
my horoscope okay
so well i’m not in france i’m in england
okay so that’s one thing and the other
thing
is uh that i’ve been an astrologer
for more than
years i’m trying to think must be
oh it’s it’s nearly years
so i started learning astrology when i
was in my late s
about your age now a bit younger
um i do a very different kind of
astrology
i don’t do vedic astrology i do i work
in with the placidus system
um and i think it’s fascinating to talk
to
a vedic astrologer because i wonder if
there will be very similar stories that
we come up with
even though we have a completely
different chart to look at
i wish that i had the technical ability
to show
your chart on here but i don’t have that
but i’ll have to learn how to do that
at some point um so
i’ll talk about you and say what i see
for you um i think it’s very interesting
to meet you at this time and talk about
what’s going on in your life
because strangely there’s a similar
thing
going to be going on with me for next
year and
will be having similar experiences which
is strange
synchronicity we call it so
in this chart i see that you have
jupiter in the sixth house
and because you have what’s called your
mid heaven
in sagittarius and that’s the sign
that’s associated with jupiter
it means that you’re very much a person
who likes to learn
likes to expand your ideas um
and uh you will learn a lot more from
talking to people
from different cultures different
countries
um all of that you really really enjoy
and because jupiter is very well placed
in the chart that i have it means that
actually you’re going to be quite lucky
with work
and it links in in a strange way with
your relationship with your mother
because i feel like your mother
has been in your life a very important
influence
in terms of encouraging you to be
open-minded and expand your self
and i see her as quite um there’s a kind
of a dramatic
uh openness about her and the
relationship with your father
is i feel looking at this has been a
very
strong influence on you spiritually
because i feel like your father
uh communicates and your communication
with him
is a very kind of gentle open
um open-minded and very very
uh compassionate and kind
kind of relationship and it’s formed
your personality
in a very good way um
i think it’s very interesting to look at
your relationships with women
as well because i feel like you’re a
real free
spirit and it’s very interesting to me
because i have
uranus the planet uranus what we call
sextile
degrees away from my venus and you
have
your venus and uranus connected in a in
what’s called a trine
so both of us are very we i know a lot
of men
you know a lot of women and
they always are my friends and i like
that
and i’m a kind of free spirit and so are
you and
but particularly for you you’ve got
uranus in the th house
which means that you
it is the house of friendships and
groups so
uh women that you meet are very very
influential in your life and you like
that you enjoy that and
um also because venus is in aries in
your charts
it does mean that you you get a kind of
power out of it
and you you don’t want somebody
um i’m trying to put this in a subtle
way
you don’t want somebody confining you
or or saying well why are you speaking
to all these women i mean it’s just not
it’s not for you you like you really
enjoy
speaking to women and i was looking at
your website
actually after i discovered this the
other day
and i noticed that you had a few
podcasts or
films of other women from all over the
world so i thought i started laughing i
just thought oh there we are
he’s doing this again um so that’s going
to be you for the whole of your life
um but at the same time as this very
kind of adventurous
side to you you also have a very
solitary side
because in the chart that i did you have
saturn in the th house and that means
that you need time alone it’s very
important to you
and if you don’t have that alone time
you feel a little bit
overloaded and you you need to kind of
defrag
if you know what i mean you need to just
clear your mind
and be solitary and some people with
this sign
in their chart um uh
suffer a little bit from depression but
i don’t know
if that’s the case with you i just know
that you
find too much activity too many people
for too long
too much you just have to sometimes shut
your door
and stay alone and that’s going to be a
very significant part of your life
again um over the next two years
two and a half years so i had a look in
what we call an ephemeris which is where
all the planets are at the moment
and there were two things that i noticed
that are very significant for you so the
first thing is
that there was uh an eclipsed
new moon in sagittarius two days ago
and in the chart that i did it touches
that
that eclipse new moon touches what we
call the mid heaven in your chart
which means your career your outer
persona
your connection with the outside world
and
it also happened to touch my mid heaven
in my chart
but yours is something like i can’t
remember now it’s it’s approximately
five degrees of sagittarius
and mine is a bit further on into
sagittarius but it affected both of us
so i’d be interested to find out what
happened to you
two nights ago because i couldn’t sleep
and i felt really kind of um
i felt quite jumbled up i felt quite
emotional and
um overwhelmed
and yes at the same time very excited
because
i started to be involved with a new tv
station
about six weeks ago and
there’s a lot of work coming in which
i’m not being paid for because
this tv station is actually promoting
world peace
and a new world order so it’s about
debate and it’s about
new politics new economics all that kind
of thing
and i was feeling shaky because i’m not
getting any younger
and it’s a big um challenge for me
and the man who runs the tv station had
asked me
to translate not from danish he’s a
danish man
he’d written in english but he didn’t
like his english in writing
so he asked me to change the grammatical
syntax and everything so that it would
be easier for people all over the world
to read
so i was up at two o’clock in the
morning typing
retyping what he’d written so it was a
big
night for me emotionally and for work
and it was like oh my goodness this is
amazing that i’m going to be involved in
this thing
i’m talking to you i’ve been talking to
lots of other people on zoom
so it was like oh my god i really
believe that this is so important
but the enormity of it really affected
me
so i wouldn’t be surprised if you felt
very similar to me
about two days ago because that new moon
in sagittarius is very very powerful for
both of us
the other thing that’s going to happen
for both of us strangely
coincidentally is that
in the new year it’s going to start a
little bit sooner with you
maybe about a month earlier
so saturn moves into your th house
so it also moves into mine but it moves
into my th house
in about the end of january and for you
it’s from the th the th of january
and that means you’ve already got saturn
in your th house we call it natalie
so that’s the bit of you that likes to
be solitary
and you know shut out the world
so you’re going to have more of that but
i don’t see it
as being a negative thing i see it as
you will be communicating and doing the
things that you always do but you’ll
also maybe
be thinking about writing and really
kind of centering yourself
and spending time alone in order to be
more productive
and you’re going to have two and a half
years of that and also coincidentally
i’ve been thinking about doing more
writing and i can feel it
already starting in my head all my ideas
and the things i want to write about
and only yesterday i had somebody who
wanted a horoscope done
and he’s been writing about very similar
things to what i’ve been
want to write about but i want to do it
from a slightly different angle
so it kind of confirmed in my mind oh
yes
writing is the thing so when saturn
moves into your th house
that’s you’re going to notice the effect
of that around the th of january
and then it will go for two and a half
years and it’s really then that you’re
kind of preparing
and sorting yourself out ready for a
sort of beginning
in the outside world definitely to do
with work and
and how you’re going to progress so
quite often what people do when they
have a saturn transit like this
is that they not only do they tidy up
their mind but they tidy up their
cupboards
they get rid of all their rubbish all
the things they don’t want
um and and it’s actually preferable and
more pleasant to stay in clearing out a
cupboard than
speaking to a human being it’s just a
time for
finishing off a cycle in your life ready
to start a new
cycle um and i also
i remember saying to you when i first
spoke to you you know your website has
got so much in
it it’s so busy and i just wonder if you
might spend a bit of time
tidying that up as well because there’s
so much in it that it’s hard to know
where to go
first of all you know i’m thinking wow
this is so huge
i i can’t take it all in so maybe you’ll
think about doing that as
it occurred to me um
as you’re much younger than me i can
remember the first time that i went
through a saturn
transit of my th house because it only
happens every years
and there were people that passed away
very important people in my life that
that died at that time
so i’m not going to make a very negative
kind of
prediction to you but i wouldn’t be
surprised
that over the next two and a half years
you might be
attending funerals and thinking about
very deeply about
important people in your life that’s all
i want to say
um i’d be interested to see how that
pans out for you
um certainly for me
uh at my age um i’ve had several friends
dying
in the last year and they haven’t dived
died in the pandemic they just died
because they were getting old
but i’m wondering how this saturn
transit is going to work for me
and does that mean that other friends
are going to pass away
i don’t know um so
it’s a time saturn in the th house is
often a time where you consider
the really deep issues of life it’s not
a light-hearted time
you know it’s a time where you realize
on a spiritual level that we walk alone
you know we’re born alone even if we’re
a twin
we arrive separately and we die
on our own these are very deep things to
think about
um so what else do i want to say
uh in your chart you have saturn
in the th house natalie as i just
described
and uranus in the th house and
interestingly
they’re in what we call mutual reception
i don’t know if you understand that i
don’t know if vedic astrologers even
think that way
but saturn i’m just going to look at it
because i can’t remember exactly how it
goes but it’s something like
saturn is in aquarius which is the sign
of uranus
and uranus is in capricorn which is the
sign of saturn so they swap over
and it means they’re in mutual reception
so i found that interesting because
i think that um your destiny
is to start groups of people
who want to think about spiritual things
and i i know already that you’re doing
something to do with education which
fits in with your jupiter and
sagittarius and i do
see you’ve been really successful with
that but i don’t think it’s the only
thing that you’re going to be doing i
think you
you’ll be very good at bringing people
together in groups
maybe meditating talking about spiritual
ideas stuff like that
it’s definitely part of your destiny
but it also means because your saturn is
placed in the th house in aquarius
that you will also need periods of time
where
you learn so much from other people that
you have to go away
and just kind of think it all through
because your whole life you’re going to
be
rethinking your ideas and thinking oh my
god
the thing i was thinking about that
person
had that view and i need to shift my
idea just a little bit
you know you’re going to have a very
interesting life in terms of
learning and learning and learning and
more learning
and i did actually have a look
to see when you will have completed your
learning or where you’ll think
well yeah wow if i look back
and actually you’re going to be in your
early s
so the whole of your life up to the age
of
is going to be a massive spiritual
journey
and you you will look back and i’ll be
long gone by the time you’re
i’m sure but i hope you remember that i
told you this and you’ll say she was
right
i thought i was learning so much but now
i look back and
i didn’t know anything like the stuff i
know now
so i can see you smiling because that
sounds like
a nice idea to you knowing what you’re
like
um so what else do i want to say oh the
other thing i wanted to say about you
is that because you’ve got this
interesting uranus venus connection
especially with women that actually you
believe in universal love you
you actually don’t really understand how
somebody could be
kind of old-fashioned and traditional
and say
well you know you only love me how could
you love that other person as well
and i don’t mean in a sexual sense i
just mean that you just
understand universal love it’s obvious
to you
just the way it is and but not everybody
thinks that way
i understand it because i’m very similar
but you know
um i know that um i was talking to some
school friends this morning on zoom so
i’ve known them since i was
and they think i’m a bit
too much sometimes you know i have to
learn how to keep my mouth closed
and listen to them because they have
their very traditional ways of looking
at things and they think
you know i don’t tell them half the
things i do
because it’s too much it’s too exciting
but you’re going to have a very exciting
time that’s your destiny
but you know other people don’t want to
live that kind of life
and sometimes it’s difficult when you’re
unusual in that way or unconventional
because people that are very tied to
their set ideas
um can be quite um
what’s the word envious and unkind
you know but you can’t help it you’re
very free thinking
very open open to all kinds of ideas
and that’s what your life is going to be
basically
um also money um i did have a look at
that and now you’re going to be
getting frustrated with me
because i’m trying to work out when
that’s going to expand
and i think yes that’s right i had a
look at jupiter the transit of jupiter
and i think that the next two and a half
years
are going to be your time for
consolidation tidying up
really setting your ideas and working
out what you can do what you can’t do
and two and a half years you’ve come out
of that period and that’s when the money
starts to come in
in a big way so that’s nice
and probably if i speak to you again
i’ll be able to see
a lot more but i thought well that’s
enough for now
and i’m interested you’re smiling so it
must be working you must be thinking
that’s strange she
she’s right about me but isn’t it
interesting because
in i looked at what you sent me
about me and i didn’t really understand
all those boxes
and crosses and the things that you’ve
done
but i did see that i had a lot of
piscean
energy and in my
placidean horoscope the one that i’ve
done
i’ve got a pisces ascendant and i’ve got
neptune conjunct the moon which is very
piscean
but there’s a lot of aries in my chart
and yet i do feel very piscean
so i think that vedic the vedic angle of
looking at astrology
and my angle they’re not right or wrong
they just have a it’s almost like you’re
slicing a cake
or something but you’re not slicing it
this way you’re slicing it across
so you see one layer and i see another
but we’re talking about the same person
i don’t know if you’ve
thought of it that way yeah so but
um what you have said in the key is like
it’s actually exactly like um
one thing uh mother mother is actually
connected to me like
my teacher like my spiritual teacher
uh she’s um she’s the mother
she made me to i mean she
opened up my mind she is the she was the
student of
nadra guru and i got lucky to spend the
long years with her she’s like are you
saying
hold on are you saying that this is your
sister
no no she’s my teacher all right
who’s been like a mother um amma
i mean it’s it’s like uh you know
spiritual teacher spiritual guru ah
but it is interesting because you know i
have a granddaughter
who is a quarter indian
you know her dad’s family come from
kerala
and i think they call their grandmother
amma
so i suppose that’s also grandma plus
a very special grandma is it a spiritual
grandma
no this is that like gurukul is there
it’s a it’s a system
of schooling in india it is an indian
way of schooling gurukul
like rather than that of
a pedagogical style of education system
it’s a it’s mostly the education system
is pedagogical
like there will be a content people’s
will go through the content and
grab so many information into their head
and but it won’t be producing wisdom you
know it’s just
information which we have grabbed from
so many sources
and that that no not even information it
is just data
okay data which we are collecting from
outside and we are keeping it inside
and uh producing information does it
when it bounce back the information
which we have produced
from the data when it is bounced back
is it uh giving a sweetness to my life
or not if it is giving a sweetness to my
life
it’s actually means it’s wise decision
you know it’s wise it’s wisdom
if it is uh bouncing back in it a wrong
way
which means that i am actually messing
up my life you know
so this is the pedagogical style of
education like so much of information so
rather than that
of uh that is relate as i
understood there is two kind of thinking
one is relative thinking and
there is absolute thinking also so
relative thinking
we think we relate ourselves with the
uh things which around us absolute
thinking with
we we make we give sense to the things
which is surrounding us
respect i so this is
absolute thinking and the other one is
relative thinking so the gurukul kind of
system of education system is like
it’s is more giving importance to
absolute thinking
who you are what you are how to take it
out uh
so my amma i mean the
uh my second mother my biological mother
is actually helped me to
go through a lot of troubles in my life
like financial situations and things
like that where
i go i gone out from the corporate job
and looking for something else that time
and all my mother has helped
me and this mother she has actually
opened up my
mind and made me to think more
freely like rather than that of
making ideas based on other people’s
understanding about the world rather
than that of
we can actually i mean i am a being i
have a being
everybody will be having that beingness
so what happened um
[Music]
uh the power has gone it
yeah so i was speaking about my mother
like
so yeah my spiritual teacher she is a
um a mother i consider her as my mother
um so she that’s very much important
in my life and my mother also and
i believe in i believe this
universe is a mother and that is the
reason i worship
kali you know so
the uh that is why my favorite date is
kali
so mother is so much important in my
life
but harley is quite um a scary mother
as well
a bit scary but you know but
that is the i mean kali like
you know her kids to be like um
beera like um she don’t like
uh uh a shy female
a shy male you know he
don’t get into fight he don’t
the run for uh she don’t like
the men who is not a go-getter
yeah because i know she has many arms
and she’s holding food and she’s holding
books
and she’s holding all these things and
it’s like
no well there you are look there’s that
wonderful thing
no you can’t have it because you’ve not
been good
that’s how i think of marley um
yeah it’s interesting because you’ve got
this amazing jupiter
and moon conjunct so i i’m not surprised
that you talking that way because i
think you’re also
a very um emotionally
um generous person
um because of the influences that you’ve
had
that you’re describing you know
it’s a really nice placement of jupiter
that you have
in your chart so congratulations on that
one
[Laughter]
and my father he allowed me to
go in the way which i like to go
that is that is very much important like
he didn’t put me into any kind of
conditioning in my
whatever i done so that also very much
important
for me and that is also what you have
describing is in that way it is very
correct
then uh about the relationship
the women are like yeah i have a lot of
women in my life
like they are friends uh girlfriend so
you know i enjoy the company of women
because uh
more than that of the men who helps me
in my life is
actually women um
i don’t know maybe because of the mother
kali is coming in that way
you know in that particular moment i see
the
goddess in them you know um
that is how i see them like they are
helping me
i mean yeah but i don’t know
whether it will make a problem in my
life or whatever but
i have uh i mean i
i i have a lot of relationship with the
i mean not sexually i have emotional
relationship or
yeah so many things with uh women
actually like more than that
yeah and i my best friends also women
actually
not men so in that way that is also
the other thing that i didn’t say uh
was because in western astrology
if you have uranus and venus combined
like i have too
then um you get involved with technology
and
tv and things like that and so
you know i have when i was in your age
i worked in a place where there were a
lot of tv
personalities coming to the place where
i worked
and then that went away and then
i went through the phase where i was an
astrologer on tv
and i didn’t make any effort at all
i just met a woman who gave me a
telephone number
and i thought oh maybe i’ll do some work
and i rang the number and five weeks
later i was on television it was
easy it just fell into it and now i’m
talking to this man in denmark
who’s starting this big tv company
globally
to bring about you know change in the
world
and i can see you having those kind of
opportunities
as well but it’s not uh all the time
because it’s uranus uranus is suddenly
it arrives
suddenly it goes away but it’s okay it’s
exciting you meet interesting people
um so in fact today
i heard from the man in denmark he sent
me a message on skype
and he said oh thank you for doing this
work for him and then he said would i do
an interview with him
and then i was going to talk to him when
we next speak
about you and what you’re doing and all
that kind of thing
so uh i think you’re you’re going to be
effort effortlessly lucky
with technology and tv and things like
that
it’s just going to come into your life
and it’s going to be amazing
does it mean to say you’ll be famous you
know
it’s because you’re not you don’t want
to be famous
that’s not the point yes
it’s like the basically why i started is
like um
the astrology reading of the podcast
which i am doing is because this is like
a reference library of people’s life
you know people’s are getting caught up
in their own mind
they are thinking only one dimension in
which they can go to
but they think they have the sender but
that is not the truth
i mean there are a lot of people which
are
same like us and they are
not getting caught up in their own head
and
i mean there is freedom is possible i
mean freedom don’t come from the
government is changing or politicians
are changing or politics is changing or
you are getting so much money
that turned all doesn’t make freedom
freedom comes from
the sense of freedom is from inside you
know
and also i think i agree and i think
it’s also
the ability to be able to think
for yourself so you’re not
following like a sheep you know you’re
thinking
um i i don’t know about that idea
you know it there are always going to be
people that have different ideas
so we don’t have to be making everybody
follow
our idea because we have a separate
thought
but you know it’s important for people
like you and me
to have independent thought and
and not be caught up in what other
people
are expecting shall we say
yeah that is one thing um
so the once we are following our own
ideas the important thing is like uh
just to make sure that your idea is not
harming the other
directly precisely like for instance the
terrorists they are following their own
idea but they are killing people
stupidity you know you don’t have to do
that
and you believe that raping is very good
for you
so you go out and rape all the women
that’s not
that is not the freedom you know
well you know about years ago
plato you know he was a greek
philosopher
he said there is no freedom without
responsibility
six words well worth thinking about in
the year
if a man two and a half thousand years
ago said that
there must be some truth in it
and and in the modern world we’re
forgetting
all this ancient wisdom things that
people were talking about
thousands of years ago and that’s what i
think
we need to think about for the world is
not i want my freedom
but i want to be able to
freely think and discuss
my freely thought thoughts if you
understand me
and then be able to liaise
join um debate
with other people to to reach a
compromise
that’s the responsible way of being free
you know so i’m a great fan of plato
i’d i’d be his girlfriend if i lived two
and a half thousand years ago
i get married to plato
if i could find him i suppose i i’d find
him
in athens somewhere uh
with a scroll in his hand and i’d say
i’ve come back from the future
if there was a television you could have
gone to there figure out the plateau
but the thing is like pillow surfers
won’t make
so much of money you know what others
are doing
and that is not the problem
and yesterday i was talking because i’m
also a therapist a psychotherapist
and i was speaking to a doctor um
yesterday he’s a sikh and he comes from
india but he’s works
as a doctor in england and
he’s had some problems and he was
talking to me about this
on a professional level and we were
actually
talking about what’s happening in india
now
and we had a really interesting think
about that
because um how can i
i can’t talk about confidential things
but what i can say is
that i know there are indian women
now who are especially in the middle
classes
i’d be interesting to hear what you say
about this because this is what’s
happening
to indian women in england
they are getting very very um
i call it the disney princess
thought you know um so they say to their
husbands
you’re not telling me what to do i’m
telling you
what to do you will give me this money
i am your wife i expect this money
and i want to buy these designer
handbags
go on these holidays do have this kind
of car
and it is totally totally
not what they’re supposed to be doing
and they’re forgetting so then all of a
sudden they’ll say
oh well i’m going to drive my mercedes
to the seat temple
because you know i’m feeling really
really unhappy
and therefore i need to ask for help
and so they’re bouncing between their
mercedes and their designer handbag
and the sikh temple and back again and
it’s not just sikh women it’s hindu
women as well
and it’s a real model for them
and it’s something to do with what’s
happening in india
i think that women are saying
you don’t treat me like that anymore you
know
i’m equal to you but it’s become this
kind of
horrible imbalance and it’s
it hasn’t they haven’t reached an
equilibrium
do you understand what i’m saying about
this do you do you see that in india
yourself
like uh you know in
india there is a culture like
um woman is not
given that sort of freedom which is like
that in uh whatever the europe is being
given
to the women ah so that must be
so what happens is when indian women
come to live here
they have this idea that this is how
english women live
and therefore i am living like this
i’m in england now you can’t tell me
what to do
i want this i want that and it’s
just it’s a little bit crazy because in
reality most english women
are living a fairly ordinary life you
know they’re not
buying designer things and well they
don’t have the money
so i just think it’s an interesting
thing that’s happening in the world
because the wealth is moving further
east
now and the economy in india is picking
up
from what i hear and i think there’s
going to be a movement
in india that moves more towards
material things and that isn’t going to
be the best
way to go but it’s like
it’s inevitable it’s going to happen
do you understand what i mean it’s quite
complicated
thing is like i have um i have spoken to
two
interesting peoples in um my life
one thing is like when somebody called
betsy i cover her podcast in uh
my thing she has produced two movies and
she’s from
uh u.s actually and she has wrote two
books one is the
uh one book is called the uh an
autobiography of an orgasm
and beyond oh so two books she has wrote
and and it’s all about her journey
to figure out a man who can
actually fill her okay so she has wrote
about that
and she has wrote that book okay fine
that is one thing
um um so she is saying
that um uh the women i mean the
um women from the um
europe uh i mean the uh liberal
countries
will be actually looking for a men who
can
fill themselves okay that is one thing
and
another thing there is um movies has
came up in india which
which which plots kamasutra okay uh
that movie is banned in india and i have
spoken to one guy
who does the um who works with the adult
industry
um he uh does uh
things like that and the largest
consumers of his production is from
india oh how interesting
see the data i’m not talking about the
people what they are saying
i’m talking about the data okay yes
people people’s lives okay people say
like but the data won’t numbers won’t
lie it’s number
you know so there is kind of
suppression in india which uh
indian men’s um like the women
don’t have a freedom to come out and
experience
what they are actually can because of
that and the cultural bias or whatever
which has been suppressing this kind of
peoples and it
which which is actually making a kind of
prevent proverb to people you know
that is i was going to read you
something
i’m just looking down because i’m trying
to find something that i read
uh because i think it describes what
indian women in england
are doing uh i’ll see if i can find it
um because so you know this guy that i
was talking to
he’s a doctor and all his friends that
are doctors
in the uk but they’re all indian they’re
all getting divorced
every single one because they’re women
are just crazy they’ve just moved here
and and they just have this huge
expectation
like um wonderful meals
parties amazing clothes
and these poor men are saying i might
earn a lot of money and i’m a doctor but
i just can’t do this for you
and the women are saying but we’re in
england
this is what you have to do you have to
be a good husband you have to provide
for me and
this is what i expect it’s a very
interesting cultural phenomenon you know
not not so funny you know
it’s it’s it’s painful um
but it seems a long way away from
spirituality i’m just trying to find
some phrases to describe it
just hold on a minute no spirituality
actually one
we can only touch our inner core only
when the
i when we are complete actually you know
yes absolutely when we are figuring
finding the peace within then only we
can actually go beyond you know
otherwise yeah
spiritual people
yes not actually let me read you
something
okay um
hold on i’m just looking at some quotes
because this is the kind of thing i’m
talking about um
just give me a moment
work life without heels
so that’s a buzz phrase it means
i’m a woman and i have a job
but i don’t need high heels work life
without heels
now for a woman like me that’s
what on earth are you talking about
but it’s like i’m a working woman and i
don’t have to wear high heels
um what else is there
i might come up with another one in a
minute um
i’m it’s it’s a it’s a description
of somebody uh you know
that that would be a western
idea of how all woman needs to be it’s
not
it’s not what a western woman is but
it’s what a perception
is okay so it’s like i’m
i’m untamed i’m self-proclaimed
i’m a warrior to me this is meaningless
totally meaningless it has no depth
at all but it’s something that’s
i think it i might have to blame america
for this
because there are so many books that are
coming out now
about how women can empower themselves
and you know be punchy and driven
and heels and
and actually that’s not how it is
because i have been that woman you know
and it’s really really hard it’s hard
work
it requires a lot of discipline
uh it requires a lot of sacrifice
it’s very very hard because you’re
working
and yet you’re not a man and
it isn’t glamorous at all
but do you see what i mean there’s this
whole idea that you come here and
oh my god i can be this woman and
and and this idea doesn’t
actually take in account of the fact
that if you want
to be a professional woman in any
country in the world
you have to be educated and you have to
know a lot of things and study a lot of
things
and then if you’re lucky you’ll
get to where you want to be you know but
it doesn’t just happen because you write
something
on social media or because your husband
earns a lot of money
you know it has to come from within for
your own personal journey
you know and i it’s extra hard for
women extra hard because they’re usually
the ones that end up looking after the
children
even in the modern world you know
so i think there’s still a lot of
confusion in the world about the place
of women
and when i was young we had people like
germaine grier i don’t know if you’ve
heard of her but she’s
a professor at oxford university
and she’s an amazing speaker she
she wrote a book called the female
munich
and it was a bestseller and she’s never
been married
and she’s very kind of liberal and free
thinking
and very wise and she says marriage is
is the worst slavery really
um if you really think about it
but um the world hasn’t changed because
of her
unfortunately and women are still very
second
to men in most of the world including
england
and so it isn’t a case of just coming to
live here
marrying a rich man and just not having
to wear heels
if only it was that easy you know
and maybe women like me have have had a
chance to see
what the world of men is like
whoops oh you’ve disappeared hang on
are you still there yes suddenly you
disappeared
um
yes so i think to be a man
in the world a professional man is
really really hard
it’s really hard you know it’s
it’s not okay for them it’s hard
so that’s my little rant okay
so coming to the writing part which you
are speaking about in my chat
uh actually i thought of making i mean i
have started a book which uh in which i
am
including the podcast some podcast
of
uh but i am speaking two to three
podcast which i feel like
important and the transcript of that
into a
collection of book a small book of uh
a tantric book which will
actually people to understand different
point of view
uh and i have written that i mean
a transcript i have collected and
editing that
like punctuation and stuffs like that
which is in a transcript
i mean the podcast transcript so that
also true
and whatever you have came up with the
um
uh the yeah i’m i’m agreeing to that
or whatever you are reading
yeah i think there’s gonna be more
writing for you uh in the next couple of
years
definitely and uh i’m already
well you know i said to you i’m moving
into a similar
phase i can feel it already
i mean it doesn’t start until february
or the end of january for me
but i can feel it i can feel it coming
i just want to close my doors
and maybe not answer the phone so much
and just
get on with it you know can you feel it
already that’s what you want to do
i mean i’m right now i’m isolated like
uh
my if my life if i think back i most of
the time i like to
live alone you know because the
i am not able to relate with the peoples
which i’m living with
it’s not that easy quite easy that
kind of peoples i can get into is very
rarely happen
some very few peoples i meet in my life
which i can actually talk to
even i can actually talk to there is
very few people that’s why i came into
internet you know
at least hoping to figure out somebody
who can i i can actually talk to you
know
uh you know you know what i see you as
because you’ve got
saturn in the th house in your chart
it’s what i call a lonely warrior
so these people always walk alone
now that’s the difference between you
and me i’m not
always like that i’m just going into
a cycle of being like that but you
are permanently like it
because i said to you you know you need
to shut out the world
but actually yeah you’re a lonely
warrior
um i don’t know if you want me to say
any more about that
but i have a friend for example
she has saturn in the th house like
you
but she also has jupiter in the fifth
house which is absolutely the opposite
so what she does is she she’ll telephone
me
and she’ll be so funny and such good
company that i’ll be laughing the whole
time i’m speaking to her half an hour
something like that
and then i might ring her three weeks
later
and she won’t answer the phone because
she’s just moved into the solitary
i’m not engaging with other people mode
and then i just leave her a message and
say ah you’ve moved into your lonely
worry a bit
then she comes out and she’s she if she
goes to a party
everybody says oh my god she’s like the
center of the party
then she goes back now you’re not like
her
you’re just more now i’m separate
and actually i think
for you it’s like there’s a dance going
on around you
human beings they’re all dancing around
and you’re observing it from a distance
and kind of going
okay i’m not really in that
and it’s because you’re a lonely warrior
you’re alone
that’s your place in the whole scheme of
things
yeah this is that what you have said is
pretty accurate
actually yes sorry
what you have said is pretty awkward um
so i feel uh we should see your chat
also
yeah then we have to compare uh
um a one single chart
into we have to make one single person’s
both chat like vedic chat also and you
can build
um a western
version of the same then we can actually
read and see
similarities and differences i mean it’s
a collaborative study
which i would like to yeah that’s really
interesting
and because it is it’s quietly developed
into
two continent in two different era this
uh
understanding of the human self and how
it’s developed yes
because also i was thinking um
it’s really strange actually because
it was i was thinking earlier when
you were talking i thought ah
i could write something with you that
would be a really interesting thing to
do
that we do the same chart
well not the same chart the same person
two different charts what do we both see
it’s interesting i thought it was very
interesting when you said about me with
my
hands and i was thinking about
now i’m getting older and
um what what what shall i do as i get
older
and it did cross my mind that maybe i
should start doing that
my hands are quite warm even now
you know just to put my hands on people
more often
with their permission obviously
not just placing them wherever i feel
so have you got any more time or do you
want to stop today
yeah um we will stopping today
and uh uh next thing we will be doing
your
chat we have not just let me know when
you have some time
maybe at the weekend or something okay
couple of days ago
after some couple of days like one or
two days yeah exactly
okay yeah god bless it’s nice to see you
again yeah
thank you bye