Paranormal Investigation with Judith from Chronicles of the Unexplained

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Hello friends. Uh today we have a guest called Judit and uh she is from Mexico and now she lives in uh United States of America and uh she got a little bit of experiences with the ESPs and estrary I mean paranormal that that is which is something which is beyond uh the senses that is the that is mostly we discuss also and uh there is a friends uh in the witchcraft uh associated in uh the other countries and the witchcraft which is happening in India also I mean whether the souls and spirits could be different in country wise or language wise. So this is something which which actually uh quite interesting to look into also.

So Judith can you introduce yourself like you know how do you got into this particular stuff and how long you've been doing your podcast and mostly what and all the things you've been speaking in your podcast and uh uh what is the what is the exact aim why you want to do this particular podcast and stuffs like that like you know so just a rough introduction like how did you started all this stuff like yes Aron well firstly I want to say that thank you so much for inviting me to your channel. Uh I'm really excited. So when I saw your email, I was oh my god, this is going to be interesting. uh I started and also like I I just want to ask you there like you know I'm sorry I just p you there like you know have you gone through any of my videos or you got any interest on my channel because because when you sent me that email I had to look exactly who was trying to contact me right to record an episode.

So I needed to have So what I do is normally when I receive this type of invitations so I go to the uh blog channel podcast of that person just to have an idea what is this about. So that's the reason I know a little bit about you when you invited me. I was excited when I saw that. Uh so okay yeah I don't uh making just like a parenthesis I don't see you is just like a green uh uh image for any reason I don't see you.

I don't know if it's part of the uh I haven't used Streamyard in the past but I don't I don't see you at all. It's just green just for you to know. Mhm. Um, okay. So, yeah, I started a podcast uh back in 2023. It's going to be two years. I started with a version of Spanish because as as you mentioned earlier, I'm from Mexico. I was born and raised over there. I moved to states in 2015 at the end of 2015.

And so the reason I started the podcast is because I wanted to write a book. I have a son with ESP which was heerated by my mom's mom. She used to see she used to senses a lot of things bad entities good ones all kind of uh ghost and paranormal and unknown experiences. So I think all those type of um events or or or experiences that that she had was in a way it's my belief. It's I'm not I'm not expert on in this situation in these uh topics. uh I've learned I'm still learning and I've read books and I used to watch documentaries just to be aware of what is this about. So my son since he was 5 years old, he used to tell me that he had all kind of weird dreams.

And one of the things that brought my attention a lot is uh he all the time uh used to go to my bedroom saying like the walls in his bedroom were alive and the walls move and breathe. All those situations I noticed on my son. Then time passed and he started experiencing more frequent visions, apparitions uh to the point that one day uh somebody grabbed his leg while he was doing homework. And uh so so that's the reason I started with this podcast. I wanted to tell the story not just my son but my grandma's stories and I had experience personally with a friend of mine that passed away uh very tragically uh she commit suicide yeah she killed herself unfortunately that was when I was 15 years old that was my first paranormal normal or unexplained situation I experienced. Uh and so so that's the reason I started with a podcast. I wanted to tell these stories and I started to doing like a storytelling um type of uh content.

So if you look my first episodes are audios and are about all these type of experiences that we have had uh during most most of my life with my my family my relatives because not just from my mom's side but I have a cousin for example that he has the same ESP but he's from my dad's size. uh he actually he he has told me a lot of sto a lot of stories about he was practicing the out of body experiences traveling to other cities other yeah dimensions I don't know how to call it but all those situations uh well it's something that that I really like to talk about because most people think that we are crazy or oh no that doesn't exist because that is beyond reality beyond the I don't know the science uh that can happen but until you experience those type of experiences until you have those type of experiences you realize that there is something out there spirits entities another realms and other dimensions I don't even know how to classify them. But there are things that you can see, but that doesn't mean that didn't exist, didn't exist or don't exist, right? So, and this is pretty much my my uh the way that I started the podcast. I have a regular job, Arun. I I went to the the school I I got a engineering degree and in that way you know everybody knows that which which subject you have an engineering into industrial engineering.

Mhm. Yeah. So and as as I mentioned so everybody knows that uh 1 + 1 is equal to right here China whatever. So I shouldn't believe in paranormal or supernatural things because I mean scientific method uh says different things. You have to have the objective evidence. You have to see things and you have to make sure those events have a logical explanation. in the in the field of parasychology that doesn't exist. So, so but anyway, my my belief is that there is a complete world outside of something that we can't see. But again, that doesn't mean don't exist, right? It's like a Bluetooth, microwaves are invisible but are there.

So, and that is that is my my point of view, my perspective. Mhm. So the very first time when you got into or when you got exposure into paranormal or when you started to sense this particular energy, can you narrate that uh that incident?

What what has happened to you? Yes. With my friend. Mhm. Yes. So yeah, that was time ago. I was 15 years old and I had a good friend. She was not just my friend, was my neighbor. And so we used to play and we were yeah spending time together.

Uh she was one year older than me. Uh I was in middle school, she was in the high school. Uh so she got depressed to the point that one day she decided to end with her life. that happened unfortunately and so at that time I was almost like a kid 15 years old I couldn't comprehend real uh the the the gravity of the situation because she used to make comments about death like oh when I die I want you to comb your hair like that several situations well but I never I never saw coming and that day that that happened was a tragic history about that because I was the only person that really knew what happened. Uh that happened in the middle of the night and her brother came over to the house uh crying and is when when when I asked him what happened, what is going on? Why you're crying? And he told me that story that she got into a fight with her mom.

Um, and she she uh came out from from her bedroom with a glass on on on her hand uh and she was pouring milk and a lot of sugar. So the the poison was already in the in the glass. So she drank it in front of her mom and her brother. So when she passed away, we moved from that house. Uh we moved to another uh neighborhood and we were about to move to another city. Well, meanwhile that happened, suddenly Arun out of nowhere, I was not watching any terror movie. I was not watching anything like nothing.

Out of the nowhere, I woke up in the middle of the night feeling a really heavy sensation like somebody was standing next to my my bed. Uh I didn't see anything. I won't lie. I just felt the energy, the presence, something really heavy that uh got me goosebumps and and I was terrified. I was terrified. I can't explain that situation. Only the people that have had those experiences, they will identify what I'm talking about was I was terrified and that happened for many nights. I would say seven eight I don't even I don't remember exactly but to me yeah last four or four days and one important thing that I didn't mention my uh friend was really uh devoted Catholic she used to go to mass she used to invite me to mass uh in the eastern the the complete holy week I'm Catholic as well but she was really like a devoted devoted the Catholic uh her mom was an atheist and she used to tell us no when you are uh when you are an adult you you will realize that God doesn't exist. Mhm. And my friend never I mean she used to say ah no don't don't pay attention what my mom says let's go to mass and so when she died there was no prayers there was no rosary not even a mass nothing her tomb because we that is another history we live next to a cemetery that was another uh different story Uh we the friends visited her tomb and we realized that her tomb was like a simple concrete laugh without any crucifix without anything and for us was a really sad because uh she was Catholic uh she would have loved to have any image of of Jesus or something like that. Mhm. Okay. So during those days around where I was waking up thinking okay what is this what I'm feeling I was going crazy I couldn't sleep and I was terrifying I didn't want to even look through through my uh like to the side because I was afraid to see something. So I was just covering with my blankets all the way up and and trying to get I don't know relax or or think in something different but I couldn't I couldn't get concentrated. I was feeling and feeling that heaviness uh like somebody was there and there was one day when I said what is this and when when I asked myself what is this I I don't know how to explain you was like a like a flash like a like a small video of seconds crossing my mind about my friend and I told myself. Oh my god.

So what if she's trying to contact me because maybe she needs a prayer? Maybe she needs a rosary because her death was really tragic. And she didn't have that. And so when I said that, I started to say, "Please, please, if you if you I mean, Larry was her name. Please lady, if you are uh here, please don't show up because if you do that, I'm gonna have a heart attack. I was terrorized. I was terrified. So when after when I say that Aron believe me after that when I said please, please, please like all night saying the same saying the same. The next day I woke up in the morning and I noticed that didn't wake up in the middle of the night and never never happened to me anything. So the next days next day next nights I could sleep and I didn't feel again that heavy energy. So my assumption or my thought is she was there asking me for a prayer.

Eventually I realized that uh her friends from from high school uh they celebrated a mass for her and that is my first uh paranormal and unknown situation. Mhm. And how long it been lasted? How many days or years that happened?

probably around 2 weeks. Mhm. Yeah. Yeah. So that uh this is this happened just after the death or uh after some time. So after after her death yes how many how many days gaps was there? It's just just immediately months months like a month two like two months. Yes. Two months. Mhm. So basically if you look into this particular sort of activity or particular sort of experience this could be a little bit psychological as well right like you know if we look into that that could be possible like because in the 2 months you've been lost your friend in the past 2 months and after you got these sort of experiences. So this can be possibly psychological as well. What you think about that? What is Yeah, it's something that I thought uh Arum um so for you to know my my dad is doctor and he didn't believe in God and he didn't believe in in all this uh spirituality stuff and he was just like a no no everything has a logical explanation you have to find the solution or that yeah yeah there is a there is a logical explanation he didn't know what happened to me and so yeah could be part of trauma I I won't say no but the the strange thing here is this didn't happen me when I was living next to her house and didn't happen to me the days uh a few days after her death because few days after she died I was sad yeah it's is completely normal so when we move to This new house for me was like a fresh start and because I started to not think about her and I was doing my normal life as a almost kid 15 years old. I was actually at that time I was just hearing my music and I was not thinking about her. I was not I'm not gonna say I was not sad, but I don't think that was part of trauma. It's because suddenly one day I woke up in the middle of the night feeling something weird that I can't explain. Um and and so the the the thing here is when I mention those words and I was terrifying asking for not to show up immediately that went away. So I was just afraid afraid to have the same experience every night and suddenly one day uh I I didn't feel anything. So yeah that that for me is is something is I don't know if you have had any type of these situations when you have an intuition that is the word it's a intuition it's something uh in deep you that says something is not normal so it's not like a I'm really traumatized because no it is some it's intuition it's it's something that Yeah. Has it's is hard to explain and hard to believe probably for for most people but until you don't experience something similar.

Yeah. is see the thing is like uh I've been uh I've been I mean I've been like it's almost like uh 12 to 15 I mean 20 plus years I'm I'm in the path of spirituality and mostly I I go into the path of tantra which is like uh uh the uh it's it's a it's a it's a way of system which deals with the energies as such. So I have I I have came across many situations where uh people will take me to solve lot of problems they are been associated with. For example the people's will believe uh there are some sort of black magic has been happened to them or some sort of uh witchcraft somebody has done to them. So things are happening most of the time the things will be psychological like uh it has uh nothing to do with the uh I would love to say it has nothing to do with the parasychology or uh paranormal activity. It is most of the time it is illusions and the the and the things which has been happening from the uh from the experiences which they have gone through in their life and that is been becoming a shadow self which has been projecting onto the uh situations which they are going through. So these are the things which I have mostly came across. So I and uh uh in in that particular case I have came across some situations where uh you know uh uh uh the the story it goes like this one uh some people's those who are invited me to solve uh one problem which has been associated with their house. Basically there are many people are dying and the relationships are not going well and things like that. After the end of the puja, what they did is like they have gifted me uh sort of a chain which I used to wear. It's it's bas it's basically made out of skull. If you if you if you are familiar with the Indian spirituality uh there is a sect of uh Indian sadhus which is called auroris.

So they basically live in schmashan. Shmashan is the place where uh dead bodies are being cremitated and uh they live there and they put the ashes on their body and this is a sort of spiritual practice for them and uh there is a holy also. I don't know whether you heard about the holy which is this practice which has been happening in India. Uh have you heard about the holy?

Holy. H O L Y. No no no H O L I. Holy. It's a celebration of colors. So where people will uh uh throw the colors for each others men will throw some colors to other people and they will so it's basically celebration of colors. So the the same thing will happen in Benaris also but here what they do is like they are not throwing the colors they are throwing the ashes of the dead body. So in India they cremitate the dead body.

So uh the uh people believe it is been uh you know they will get uh um moka we call it as moksha if they go and gremitted their dead body in the benaris uh they will get mosha so this is how they believe and there is a story also there is a reason also behind that why because this particular sect which I've been speaking about the auroris those who are also into the part of tantra so they uh what they do is like uh you know there is people put a bindi over here you know in India generally people put a bindi you know a dot a red or a white or dot they will put here.

Okay you you see that like you know Mhm. Yeah. So what happens is that there is a magnet conscious magnet. So what what they do when the dead body comes into the crematorium uh what they do is like they put uh fire over here on the dead body. Uh so what happens the skull will break open of the dead body and uh the skull skull skull skull the the person is dead is a dead body the person is dead. So the skull will uh crack open and it will release a sort of energy from the uh head. So this is this is basically they are relieving the conscious magnet uh of a living person.

So this particular energy can go back to the uh source where it is came from. So this is this is one uh thing which is happening in uh uh this is the reason why they do in the uh why people believe uh if they burn their dead bodies in the banaras they will get mosha or they will get direct uh you know direct go back to the source which they came from. So when I was with this particular family they have given me a chain which the Accordis used to wear the the chain which is been made out of uh bones basically it's a skull you know uh but not human bones it's from the camel bones okay so I got this particular chain and it's basically uh skulls basically so I I wear this particular thing because you know this is this is this I wear this is skulls basically. So I like I mean are you showing me something because I can't see anything. Okay. Uh so this this particular chain can you see? So we've been speaking about the accord is basically uh this particular family gifted me a chain which is basically uh made out of bones of camel and uh that resembles the skull. So the chain this is the chain you can see right? Okay.

Yes, I can see now skulls. Yeah. So, it's chain which is similar to that this particularly. So, this is which was much bigger than this particular thing. And uh uh you know about the kumba mela which has been happened in India recently. Do you know about what the what? It's a kumba mela. It's a it's a largest gathering which has been happened. So there is lot of sadhus and things will come there. So what happened is that once sadhu he actually took my uh you know the chain and he used it and uh from that the water has came out you know it it was one strange experience which I got uh these are the experiences if if we look into like you know and I been went to this particular family where I can really sense the presence of uh different aura all together or different energy really. So these are the I mean I have gone through these experiences and based on this particular understanding I would also love to see whether it is really psychological only or whether it is something really some truth behind that. That is why I said all these stories to you uh in this you know so yeah no I understand yeah and believe me um so I'm secti I mean skepticism in my mind is like a I I don't want to make assumptions without investigate before uh so yeah maybe what what I experienced from my friend maybe was a trauma I don't know I was really young, 15 years old. But it's so so if you look at the uh explan if you look at the definition of paranormal is all kind of events, experiences that can't be proved scientifically.

So I'm not saying it's is like a ghost type of thing. No, it is unknown. It is something that beyond the reason you don't have a log a logical explanation right uh so if I was I don't know traumatized because of that probably I will continue I would be continue having I don't know like a breakouts uh crying or behaviors of depression or something but so that thing arrived one day and some days pass and boom went away without any notice without any so I understand there are mental health uh illnesses sorry me mental illnesses like uh depression anxiety I understand that but those need to be treated and that type of illnesses can't come and go away out of nowhere there should be an explanation right you need a treatment you need. Uh so many other situations I experienced and I called to a psychologist and I and I asked her, I need an evaluation of myself. I need to know if I'm bipolar because today I was so perfectly fine and the next day I was feeling miserable. I wanted to die. I wanted to yeah that that was the the description the definition of what I was feeling terrible depression crying nothing really conffort me was too many anguish and that happened to me many years after what I experienced with my friend. So when I started the podcast Aron I went to visited haunted places and I wasn't prepared. I I don't have the knowledge to manage those energies.

For me was easy. It's like oh yeah I'm going to go and I'm going to get videos uh pictures EVPs. I was excited. Never thought about was going to have a really bad experience. So when I came back uh two days right after that tour, this was a tour here in Austin, Texas. Look at the in Google Driscoll Hotel. Driscoll Hotel is one of the most haunted hotels in United States.

Can you what what was the name of that? Driscoll Dr. I'll send it to you in the chat so you can Google it. Mhm. Mhm. No, I mean the people who are listening to this particular podcast soon they may not be uh knows about Okay. Well, yeah.

Yeah. So, the place has uh a lot of history because 1830 something and uh fouryear-old daughter of a Texas senator died tragically there while she was playing. So when I went there and I came back two days after that, excuse me, I had sleep paralysis and never in my life experienced sleep paralysis. But not just the sleep paralysis, but I was um in my I was sleep I was dreaming. So in my dream I could see like a black mass coming through the uh uh door of my room and I was placing in this position uh and I couldn't pray I couldn't move I was terrified I thought was like a isolated event never pay attention about that dream so yeah I was scared but that was the first thing happened to me after those visits Actually I went to other cities to New Orleans. Have you heard about New Orleans in United States? The roots roots of voodoo witchcraft. It is very famous. I went there too. Mhm.

Anyway, so many situations happened in this house. I was feeling I was observed and I was trying to get again logical explanation. I was feeling miserable. I was feeling uh so depressed and I called the psychologist and I said maybe I'm bipolar because for any reason this situation came suddenly uh I didn't feel like when you are getting flu you are feeling you started like a oh I feel like a strange with headache with no this this thing arrived these symptoms arrive drive like a from one day to another so quick and I needed to know.

So at that time I thought okay maybe I will need uh prescribed medication like a like a control medicine because when when you have uh anxiety depression is it's a chemical in your brain and you need uh not all the time but what I've seen what I've heard and I tell you because my dad is doctor uh you have to take uh medicines from sci [Music] psychiatric psychiatrist. Yes. So, but no, that was not my um um my case. So, I didn't need any medication. I didn't need I was with the psychologist talking. Obviously, I didn't tell her, "Oh, it's because I think because I went to these haunted places maybe." No, I didn't say anything because again if you tell that to a doctor, a scientist, they will say you are crazy. But I just explained to her what I was feeling, right? Uh and so exactly as the way that this thing came to my house went away.

And the day that went away was the day I went to the church. I brought holy water. I asked the priest to uh bless some stuff that I bought to be prepared and to do like a cleanse like with prayers and with incense. Palos santo.

Have you heard about palos santo? Uh wooden. Uh holy wooden. This well it's it's an incense. So like oi oi is is the name is palos santo the words are Spanish but if you translate it in English it's like a holy wooden it's like a piece of wood actually it's made of a of a tree it smells it smells pretty good yeah I think I have that thing you know it's something like this you know yes yes yeah yeah I you know. Yeah. So, and I was burning.

It smells very good. If I burn it is like Yes. Yeah. Like, you know, I I can maybe I can burn this. Yeah. Yes. Smell good and has good vibes and if you pray I know I mean you are in India and the the beliefs are so different like here. No, I mean I I been to different people and different people are coming to me you know. Yeah.

It's I have friends from across the globe like you know it smells really good. Yeah, it smells so good. So Anu, I was going to ask you how did you know about me? Like I do research on the parasychology and paranormal activity and people those who are claiming they know about the things and stuffs like that and I I send them an interview and uh you know just talk to them. Yeah. It's good to know you know. Yeah. But like you you came across with my podcast.

Where did you Yes. Yes. I Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I saw you on your one of your podcasters. Ah, okay. Okay. Spanish or English? Because I've been translating in English. My started with Spanish. I saw some some of the Spanish and then I understood I don't I'm not going to understand anything. Then I saw some of the English version of uh the same podcast. Yes. So this is this is when I got to know like you know I mean we can speak English.

Yeah. Wow. Wow. That is well I'm I'm glad you found me. I mean it's really interesting uh people from I mean people in India found my podcast that is really excited and it's a it's an honor for me. Thank you so much. You know the web presence is like this like you know I mean generally if you look into the internet it is like this people will search for something and they will end up somewhere you know. Yeah this is generally true is true. This is what generally happens in internet. And also and also I would love to tell you something which is in the Spanish like you know like I have Spanish friends they speak English but uh you know unfortunately their English is something like very heavy English very it's like the accent I mean they use Spanish words in between like Oh okay. So they are mixing English Spanish. Yes exactly. Uh that is hard to understand, right? Yes. Yeah. Yeah. I I've I've met people like that. So what I I mean my English is I'm still every day I'm still learning and practicing.

My husband is from from US. Uh but my accent sometimes, well try, but it's it's going to be a little bit hard. I try not to mix English and Spanish because it's uh especially because of my husband. So uh yeah and and people like I have friends doing the same and my husband like what did he say or what did she say and yeah it is hard to understand for people. Yeah. Yeah. Got it totally. So well I'm I'm glad you found me. Uh yeah I was doing research about you. uh you have a channel about yoga and so that in well many many situations uh is is uh with you with your channel. How long have you been doing this? It's like uh mostly five years I think.

Wow. Mhm. So, but do you say do you investigations or or what is exactly what what what you do like a um trying to research from people that have experienced these unexplained things or you said you have been 20 years helping people with these psychological maybe traumas. No, I been I've been I mean I'm doing the uh spiritual journey from almost 20 years like you know. So basically what I do in my podcast uh if you look into my podcast is some of them are about the astrology, some of them are about the uh uh you know parasychology, some of them are about uh hypnoticism uh and some of them are about stock uh stock trading and uh things like that. And uh um uh some of them are about the uh you know conspiracy theories basically. So these things I I like to talk to people and you know I mean yeah this is how I find friends like you know. Oh wow. Wow.

Interesting. So interesting. And somebody somebody I met in podcast uh he is from US and I met uh him in person uh last month in India. Wow. Wow. So many things. Interesting. Have you been in United States? No, not exactly. Okay.

Okay. No, I haven't I haven't been in India either. Yeah. India is also beautiful actually. So I wrote a book also. This is Oh, wow. Really? Yeah. It's in cosmic engineering. Oh, wow. Interesting. I look for that.

It's available in Amazon. Oh, okay. Amazon. Okay. I will I will do Well, uh Adam, well, thank you so much. Uh are we going to continue talking? It's almost 100 p.m. Um Mhm. I'm going to have another meeting. Um and so you want to ask me something else what you want?

Yeah, the we've been uh talking about the wool basically like uh uh you've been speaking about the um you know I mean the holistic which we've been ah palosanto yeah exactly so okay um I have a friend that she has a daughter and uh her daughter has the same ESP that my h my son has but her daughter has more I would say more developed.

She sees a lot of entities, a lot of spirits, good and bad, good ones and bad ones. But what she does is ask she asked them what you need. You need a prayer, you need light. And so basically she communicate with the spirits. Yes. Mhm.

And she told me, she told me, "Okay, uh, if you go to these haunted places, it is not common for people without any gift or any ESP to bring or to attach energies what could happen." So she told me you have to use holy water and you have to you to use palos santo and start doing prayers in the in the house like every corner of every room. You have to uh uh burn the incense, the palos santo and uh sprinkle the the holy water and start praying and praying and praying asking to God to I mean to to to protect your house to protect uh me as a person internally and externally and yeah it's something that I spent probably like a 4 hours doing after what happened and I could feel the difference around was I mean a totally difference because I couldn't sleep. I didn't sleep. I was waking up in the middle of the night feeling uh like uh something really heavy, really weird. I was afraid. I was terrified. I didn't want to go to the bathroom. So when I made these prayers in the house, I could feel huge difference. So I felt my house was more uh fresh, more I don't know different different sensation. I feel with peace.

That was the the word peace. A lot of peace inside me and and I could sleep. And since now then I haven't uh burned much palos santo lately. But my husband does that because he likes the the the scent the smell the scent of the palosanto and good night is yeah is is good and yeah it is something that uh I'm not expert on that arum to be honest I was just following a recommendation about a person she's young person she's the same age of my son but she has read a lot of books because she has experienced a lot of things since she was very little and she need she needed to learn she needed to understand what is this gift. She can't go to the cemeteries. She can't go to the funerals because she has like a maybe like a too much good energy, good light that these entities immediately they know that she can notice there notice them and and when and she said I can go to the funerals because all the time something is attached to me to my house and I have to do many things in the house. So, and she's continuously feeling and sensing things. So, she goes to a restaurant or she goes to a visit a friend and she could sense many things in those places.

So, and I did that because she recommend me to do that and that work. Yeah, that work. You you you've been uh speaking about one hotel uh which you've been uh you know what was the history of that particular hotel and what happened to you over there? Okay. So when I went, I was visiting the hotel just like a tourist, right? Because they organize uh ghost tours in the night. So I was just taking videos and and taking pictures.

The history that is not just uh Samantha Houston was her name was a fouryear-old girl. Samantha Houston died in that place. She was the one of the Texas senators. Uh and uh not that only event occurred there. There are there were more if you Google the the the place you will see like a many deaths like a people commit suicide over there. this has like a like a haunted past something like a events there a lot of energies over over there and I I I've seen videos in uh I I watch a channel travel channel uh they they have different uh TV shows uh series like a ghost hunters all those all the uh all those about spirits paranormal uh there I have seen videos of people in that hotel taking videos where they could see people passing and they could see through these people like a ghost uh apparition because you could see through the person how that wall is is can can be seen. So and that that is the history of that place. It's pretty it's so pretty hotel. Uh but do you have any videos of that particular hotel which you have been taken when you've been there? Yeah, I have videos. Will you be able to show that like? Uh yeah, but right now no I can't. Uh but I can send it to you if you want me. I can send it to you in WhatsApp. Mhm. Yeah.

Yeah. I can I can Yeah, we can share that on the podcast. It would be good to for people to see basically. So if you can right now it will be okay like Yeah. Then yeah continue what happened then? Yeah. No, it's it's basically what happened there. Uh so there are many deaths associated in that place and obviously was for 160 years or more than that with a lot of story. Uh but it is said that there there are like a strong energies that probably people that have been committed suicide there they felt any bad bad bad energy or something but it's it's basically what they say about the the hotel and so the basically this has been haunted because of the people those who are died there right yeah at the beginning because uh Samantha Houston died there.

And so so we I mean it is unknown if there was something uh before that may maybe Mhm. the reason that that poor girl died. Yeah. That killed someone. And and and so when I came back from that tour, I felt I was crying. I don't like without any reason crying and feeling miserable. this life I didn't want to leave and I was just trying to have a logical explanation why I got that feeling. So what I've seen what I've heard in in TV shows is like for example if relatives of uh I would say for example the poor mom of that of that girl was suffering there because her daughter died there. Too much depression, too much sadness in that place. Maybe is that is the vibe that I brought with me because I was feeling like that.

But was not just that only was that the thing that I was feeling observed. I was feeling like somebody was uh uh avoid I mean something kept me awake in the night like I was just trying to not think about that but I couldn't. It was really something I can't explain. And it is so so and so I woke up one day with a big bruise like a this this size bruise in my thigh.

And so I was told like that could be a sign of a like a I will I won't say attack but it's like a symptom that something not good it is in the house or is in in my surroundings. Uh I felt nausea as well. So yeah all those type of things. Um if we look into your uh chart uh the you know um the videos which you have shared there uh you've been discuss I mean you've been going through the places where infected with the um I mean otherwise otherwise you can put it in way some people will feel there are some uh extra sensory activities are going on like maybe may not be from the plane of the existence which we are living into or uh some other planes of the existence basically.

But can you talk more about that like you know you've been through the places where the black magic rituals has been happening and uh you told me a place um you know the there are people are doing the black magical rituals basically. So let's talk about that like you know but but yeah yeah yeah yeah sure sure okay yeah so okay as I mentioned probably in the previous session I've been interested in the paranormal unknown and supernatural stuff since 15 years old and I wanted to to write a book uh about my experiences as I mentioned also my son has ESP.

Uh my grandma from my mom's side has had because she passed away had ESP. So I grew up in a house uh built next to a cemetery where ESPs are very normal. I mean paranormal is very normal basically. Yes. Yes. There is a actually there is a statement that I uh heard from one of my actually Tony Rathman. I uh send your greetings to him. Uh he has a uh await a method to communicate with spirits. And there was a phrase that I really liked uh where the supernatural uh turns natural because we are seeing more and more often these events, these situations that still are unknown for us but they are there. Mhm. Okay. So, okay, come back to the story. Something like paranormal is very normal. That's true.

Yes, paranormal is very normal. Yeah, that's true. So yeah, but a lot of people don't believe until they experience things. Mhm. Well, anyway, so uh I was I was saying that yeah, I I've been in this uh I've been attracted to this uh unknown topics, unknown situations. And uh in 2021, we had a trip to New Orleans, my husband and I and my youngest son. We were there. We had some experiences in uh several tours we did in the night. We c we capture some ors.

We capture uh weird things and we took pictures and and we have videos, right? That was in 2021. And then we came back in 2022 at the end of 2022 I believe. Uh and we did other tours but this time was my other son, my oldest son. So four of us uh we were together in this uh you know Mar Lavu is the the voodoo queen in New Orleans, very famous. We went to Lor's uh mansion. There are a lot of stories in that city, a lot of legends and a lot of places in the French Quarter that legend says are haunted. So we were there uh we came back nothing happened that that you have shared that one of the video with me uh in the morning basically this is no this is the middles plantation this is one of the most haunted plantations in United States this is located in St. Fran Francisville, Louisiana and there are a lot of legends about this uh house, this mansion is haunted.

Several situations happened there. There are pictures if you Google uh Middles Plantation, you will got you will get a lot of information in that particular place. things happened to my husband but we didn't capture them because I mean things happen at the same I mean things happen suddenly and you are not prepared we were visiting the place and and having a tour with family uh the the there was nothing captured the other pictures that I sent you uh are from different places yes this is a one of the cemeteries in Louisiana uh was night and I don't know what I mean we were just randomly taking pictures and we captured these like orbs. My husband has another picture.

Where is Where is the ops in this? Yes. There. Yes. This white one, right? Like you know. Yes. The white. Yeah. Uhhuh. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. There are Yeah. Several. And in the in the bottom. Can you point out in the bottom more to the left? Yes. That is another there are like two two orbs. Um we didn't see them like obviously in real time until we took the pictures we realized is I mean we're there.

Yeah, this is a cemetery. Uh there are a lot of cemeteries in New Orleans. The number one is one of the most haunted cemeteries, but this is not the uh cemetery number one. This is a different uh So these orbs are there in this picture these images also. Yeah. This these orbs. Mhm. Mhm. Yeah. A lot of people died there and see Oh. goes to Can you see is uh charity hospital cemetery. Can you see that light room uh in the in the bottom? Can you see the light?

Uh it is something. Yeah. No, no, no. in the in the right. Go to the right. Hover. No, in the in the bottom there is like a Okay. Okay. Yeah. Yes. Yes. Yes. So when we were there uh my son, my oldest and I we heard at the same time like a phone was ringing uh but was not his not my nor mine. And we didn't I mean we were a like a totally separated from from the rest of the people. Uh we we couldn't explain because we heard like a with us uh like a phone ringing and when we took this picture look it's I don't know something weird there.

Mhm. Over here. Mhm. Mhm. Mhm. Yeah. And I sent you the Driscoll Hotel room is the first is the first video. Oh, this is this is one of the the um objects in Middles Plantation and she's pointing out some type like a fingerprints.

They say that every certain uh time they send the mirror to get like a I don't know to to get cleaned because uh quite often there are some like a fingerprints appearing in into that into that particular this particular mirror or Yes, that particular mirror. Yeah. Is in inside of the middles plantation in Louisiana. Mhm. Mhm. Mhm. Many things happened there.

Um there's Yes. Pretty much just for you to show the the mirror. Mhm. Mhm. So this mirror is the there are a lot of stories might be around this particular mirror, right? Yes. Because in in that place uh the owner was killed. Somebody uh shoot him and uh the the person died there.

And he says, well, legend says that still haunting the uh the the mansion and something is going on on the specific mirror is like a Yeah. fingerprints. [Music] Oh, that is a Masonic lodge in San Antonio, Texas. M I send you two pictures for you to see like the difference. There are some like a white lights or those weird this. Yes. If you if you can see the other one there was nothing there.

Maybe. No. Well, that is the story over the one. Yeah. This is This is This is a video in the basement of the Masonic Lodge in San Antonio, Texas. Uh if you zoom in, you can see a lot of orbs. Okay. It's a It's a video. It's a small video, but you can see a lot of uh white orbs crossing. What's the basement? Yeah.

Okay. There is something. Yeah. Yeah. It was just a basement. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Mhm. It's just an example. I have a lot but Yeah. So, what other pictures? Oh, look at that because uh we were there. No, the previous one, the other that that you could see more clearly the uh orbs like a like a flying around we were talking. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. In that place, Arun, we had EMF and we noticed like a specific place where a piano was located apparently in the past and somebody was there. Actually, my husband left alone there. So dark and he said that he felt like a somebody sit on that one of the chairs.

It's so interesting that that tour was so interesting. M this is the story, right? Yeah. Yeah. And go back to the first the the first um video that I sent you. So play it because it's important. Uh there is a sound capture when I was uh going up walking through the stairs. the first not this. So you you were showing the uh WhatsApp page. Yes. Yes. This Yeah. Go up go up go up more is was the first one. that one that stairs.

So you can in that specific there there was a background music but when when I was walking obviously I didn't hear that because there there was a a a like a group uh playing music but somebody told me about there is like a specific sound at the beginning of the stairs like a like a But you have to wear uh you have to wear headphones and pay attention because it's just like a a what one second.

Yeah. That in that specific Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Some here, right? Yes. Um apparently Samantha Houston, uh fouryear-old girl died in that staircase. She was playing with um with a ball and she was one of the Texas senators. She passed away there unfortunately.

[Music] Sorry, I have a lot of allergy. Yeah, that that hotel is is pretty it's beautiful but there are many stories there that a lot of people have um commit suicide. Yeah, there is in this particular hotel in that particular hotel. Yes. Is in the downtown is pretty so so beautiful.

[Music] Mhm. There's some amazing paintings also which is something Mhm. Mhm. Say again. Sorry. Your body is sensitive. I mean you have allergy. Oh yeah. A lot of allergies. Uh it is where I live there are a lot of cedar. Actually there is a suburb named Cedar Park because we have a lot of cedar trees in that area. Yeah.

So the more uh the people who are more sensitive are actually open to these kind of things basically like so when I investigated uh some people those who actually are claiming to see other things which is otherwise not able to see for the normal people. uh the common thing common fact is that most of the peoples are having the allergical reactions. Basically if you look into the mystic osho rego also he was died out of allergy right. So the yeah yeah the uh and in also the people says if you if you are enlight getting enlightened uh uh the way uh the body will start to lose because you are getting to know about your soul and stuffs like that. So then there is no utility of the body uh from hereafter.

So body will gives trouble give allergies and things like that. I mean and so this is this is something common factor which I observed so far like you know so you are basically you are saying like that people that have allergies are more sensitive to have the the ESP to see things or feel things like in a Oh wow that's true this is something which I have observed so far basically really so I haven't okay let me tell you I hadn't had allergies until last year started last year at the beginning of that year and that made me think a lot what what what happened here in the house after I was visiting these places uh I don't consider myself as a sensitive person I could feel things here But those events that happened to me were because I went to these places hunted too much energy and I didn't know how to be protected. I Yeah. I I thought was going to be something real like a oh yeah, I'm going to take pictures. I'm going to do some kind of research type like a ghost hunting. But I never thought about the consequences of doing that because because I don't know about rituals to be protected to protect my house and well I don't know I have a friend she's from Philippines Arun and what she knows my story and what she told me is for example when we went to New Orleans to these haunted places We didn't come back immediately to the house. We stayed in the hotel. We stayed in Airbnbs. And for any reason, those energies could be I I don't know spread everywhere. But not nothing happened to me. Nothing nothing at all. This happened to me. the the entity or things that I felt in this house happened right after I went to these places here in Austin, Texas to this specific hotel, Driscoll Hotel and and one of the theories well what what she believes is because I came back directly from that hotel to the house and she told me when you do these things go to like a open spaces parking uh lots or something and you have like your shake yourself to get rid of all what do you think about that?

Have you heard something? Yes, exactly. Like you know if uh people are actually going to this kind of energy or at least working with this sort of energy they themselves take protection. For example, we've been talking about the wood which gives a scent uh when burned. you know we sp we spoke about uh that uh one particular wood that particular holy wood uh that has to be burned. So similar way when we go to uh the when we work with these sort of energies generally peopleles will take uh a lot of protection for example they wear chains made out of rdra I mean in India and uh they wear the uh chains made out of black wood uh things like that. Okay.

Um so what happens is that uh the presence of extra extra um you know the the the beings from the different dimensions can give a lot of trouble to our body in a particular way one way or another. Like we have the books which the book uh called Adharveda that talks about the medicines that can actually repel the um the things from other world the beings which has been already deaded. Uh they uh um you know black theas and uh um I mean how do we I put it like you know the good angels and the bad angels. How do we work with the bad angels and how to take them out like you know the das and evil spirits and um even the gods also sometime get angry about you like um so how do we get protected from that particular place and things like that there is an uh complete science which is speaks in the adharavea that is already there um and I saw the when we go into different places our energy level different from place to places like for example I spend a lot of time in Himalayas when I was there uh we look from the top of the mountain to the bottom so what happens is that uh our mind will get opened up a lot we can see the things which we are not able to see otherwise from the top of the mountain our mind will just expand and you know and the people lives over there they also very cool people uh not like the people who lives in the bottom of the land like you know so because they are also very cool people because they always see more more than that what other peoples will be able to see. Wow.

So the places gradually bring a lot of energies and uh the protections we have to take in order to work with these energies. And uh uh and in India we believe um if you come if you go to the place where the death happens you have to enter the house after taking bath only because the uh spirits can enter into your body because it's it's just dead.

it's not it gone from the planet of the I mean the earth plane it's not it uh went to the other plane or so we have to take the bath or if you give massage you know if you give massage to somebody you have to wash your hand uh these sort of things like you know because that is also energy and if you I also read tarot cards when I read the tarot cards I also wash the hand after the reading because the energy comes to me is from the other person. So I have to uh protect myself a lot in order to you know keep it. Yeah.

Yeah. So interesting Aron. So remember in the previous session you asked me uh when I told you that I thought somebody was attached to me and somebody I brought something in in this house because many things happened. So, and you mentioned that maybe I was I don't know like a like my mind was playing tricks on me.

So, I don't know if that could be that could be possible like uh that mostly may be possible because uh for some people it maybe the mind is playing tricks on them. the parasychology actually uh doing a lot of research on that like you know whether it is a psychological problem or um or some problems which has been caused by the spirits or the souls itself. So there is a lot of research also is happening in that particular direction. Yeah I I I totally understand that part personally I didn't believe in this. I mean, not that I don't believe in God and I don't believe in evil of obviously I'm Catholic. I I grew up believing in that.

Yes. But never thought about that something could be like a draining my energy to the point to feel miserable. I and I wanted to die. And so I don't know if I mentioned to you, I I studied engineering, right? So when something happened to solve a problem, the first thing that you have to consider is what what what was the change? What changed?

And what changed to me is I went to these places and right after this hotel uh tour two days after I got this sleep paralysis and having this vivid dream like at this black mass uh trying to attack me, right? Mhm. So, so this this was the first part and I try to uh think like oh this was just an isolated event that was a nightmare and that's it. Many situations happened with with past time passed with the weeks had bruise had many multiple situations that at the beginning know oh no I didn't pay attention but even even my husband experienced things too that at that time he didn't tell me until he realized what was happening to me. So there were many situations here arum that my theory 99% is there was something here. I don't know if I mentioned what happened with the uh alarm system here in the house.

Mhm. We have cameras and once I was working in the office and I got some notifications on my phone that one of the sensors was activated and the alarm goes off. Um, this sensor, the first that was activated was in one of my windows in in the master bedroom in the first uh floor. So I when I saw that I thought, "Oh my god, somebody uh got into the house trying to rob something right to and when I was in the in the phone trying to investigate uh and I spoke with my husband, he was in San Antonio working and I was in the office. He thought I was here in the house. So the police came and they were searching and there was nothing." The weird thing around here is there was one sensor first that was activated and after that sensor the timeline of the events the second sensor was uh the motion sensor in the living room like somebody was passing through that. And after that the third sensor was the main uh door and the fourth sensor in the garage. So when I asked my husband what did you see in the cameras? What is and he told me that is weird because the cameras were not working. So when I was checking the app I was like a why the cameras are still working have uh enough battery there is no reason so that precise moment cameras didn't work didn't capture anything one sensor could fail second sensor probably but four sensors without yeah all all the all the four failed at the same Yes. So how can you explain that? That is unexplained. I mean there is no logic. I mean again I I know how the sensors work. One could fail two but for and with this exactly timeline it is so weird. It's like somebody was entering through the window passing to the living room and left the house. It is something weird and somebody was checking the alarm and there was nothing. Suddenly everything was working. Cameras were working all the time. We didn't lose power. We didn't lose internet connection. Nothing. There was no wind.

There was no no many situations happened in this house to the point like when that happened because police was here. My neighbor was with my husband and I because I I left the the office and my and my husband left uh he was in San Antonio. So after like a couple of of hours he was here and we were with a neighbor and my husband and I we were like a what is going on with alarm and guess what my neighbor told me? She said, "Oh, no, no, no. You're not going to tell me that you guys believe in ghost." Is what she said because we were trying to figure it out why the alarm uh I mean the behavior was not normal.

Other other occasion around my husband was checking one of the cameras precisely in the living room. We both at the same time saw in real time broad daylight a lot of orbs in the living room. A lot. Mhm. Mhm. And both are these orbs are uh able you were able to see these orbs with your naked eyes or only via camera only? Through the camera. through the camera in real life because my husband was changing the battery and he moved the camera and he was adjusting the the the the an angle of the camera. So we both saw ors in real time through the camera but was broad daylight. When we saw that we looked at each other and we said we didn't see anything. So we didn't want to pay much attention right like a okay no this is nothing is happening to is is because we didn't want to get uh to the point like a oh my god I'm imagining things no we're trying to okay there there should be there must be an explanation for us to see this or for us to experience this but there are many situations did I tell you that I woke up once with a bruise like this size on my thigh and and I was like, "Oh, maybe I hit with something." And I don't remember and other occasions had nausea and I was, "Okay, I'm sick." Right?

There was a point when I was crying and I was feeling miserable. I called to a psych psychologist and I told that psychologist I want to know maybe I'm bipolar can you please help me can you please guide me because I know mental health I mean mental illnesses exist right and there are anxiety depression I know that my my dad is doctor I don't know if I mentioned this before and it's not that I know a lot but I've heard things.

I know mental uh illnesses exist but this this this situation that I experienced around feeling depression and miserable and with anxiety arrived one day suddenly and at the same time arrived to my life left. And that happened when I went to a cath catholic church and I spoke with a priest and I brought holy water and I was praying and I was um palos santo have you heard? U yeah yeah yeah I have that particular wood you know I have showed you you remember so I was uh praying and uh smoking. The palisando is also one of the uh you know um resistor towards these astra spirits basically. Uh so some we use in India, some from the west and things like that. There are different stuffs like from different peoples are using in different parts of the world. Yes. And the other thing Arun I don't know if I mentioned to you my son has tarot cards. M see one one one one thing I just I will come to your uh uh son's ability but uh see here uh you've been mentioning about your uh house and you've been mentioning about the activities which is happened to you like is is uh is this the house which freshly built or uh you bought this particular house? How is the what is the story behind the house? Okay, this house was built probably four years ago and we moved two years ago. Uh, the only thing I know there was a lady living here.

Mhm. But she passed away not in this house is my understanding. She passed away in the hospital. She had cancer and I knew this because my neighbor told me her name was Carmen. Uh and that's the only information I got from this house when we arrived here. Uh there were some like a oh this house like a signs this house is u uh I don't know something about angels uh is taking care about angels or something like I don't remember. Uh there were some signs. I mean to me I felt perfectly good see I mean my husband and I when we came to see this house we and we saw it we saw the house we fell in love. Oh yeah I like that that house a lot so we bought it.

Um that's it. I mean I don't think I I don't think it's something related to this person that passed away. I think was something related to these haunted places I visited in Austin in the in the downtown because that Driscoll Hotel was not the only place we went. We did a complete tour in that downtown. There are many stories of multiple hotels, two three hotels and we were walking and we were uh um uh hearing that the stories, right? Mhm.

And so yeah, that happened to me. And one thing I want to mention for for you audience, Aron, is very important. Be careful what you wish. Because I remember when I came back from that trip and I was checking my phone about pictures, videos. I wanted to capture something. And I felt so disappointed because I didn't capture anything. And I was to the point like a really upset saying, "Oh no, this is not possible. I didn't capture anything. This is so bored." And that was my mentality that I had when I came back from that trip. So it is important. I wanted to capture something. So be careful what you wish because what you wish could be uh like a become manifest. Manifest.

Exactly. Exactly is is what I what I did and two days after boom this terrible sleep paralysis that I had never experienced something in my life um see the I want to add you something like you know when I'm when I'm uh talking with the people who has gone through the places where the extra activities have been happening. So if we look into the stories the the more probability of a one person become the ghost uh if he or she is dying through a lot of pain. So if they are going through a lot of pain there is a probability of them to be become a ghost or something because from stories this is what I hear. So the people's who comes to them is either they been died in an accident or they have gone through a lot of pain and died or something that sort like for example you've been talking about somebody who got cancer and died and so there is a possibility because when uh when we are in pain our sensory organ organs and our mind and everything is been particularly focused into a particular point very deeply especially when we die many people die out of pain and if if the if the disease also is giving them a lot of pain so they will die in a way very painful. So what happens in that particular time our sensory organs and things like that will be focused into a particular problem or particular area very deeply. And this has been spoken in one of the book called uh uh this is one of the book in the tandra that is the uh uh Tibetan book of death. It speaks about the yoginis and things like that. the who the the the person who wrote this particular book Palma Sambhaba he has gone through lot of peoples who are dying and he documented very very very well about their death and he found out how they are dying and uh he speaks about it is important to recognize while we are dying how we are going through the death and things like that. So uh if people are not able to recognize the yogis and uh uh the different dimensions while dying they may left alone. This is what uh I understood from this particular book also. So I just want to add this particular thing because uh when you are talking about the person who got cancer and died in your house uh this is something which I relate myself to that's why. Yeah. Yeah. she she died.

Well is is what I what I know. Uh yeah the similar way you can uh bring people also the uh if see uh in temples uh if you look into the entire ideology of India the Indians really don't have god you understand uh maybe it is you you feel like you know it's a something exaggerated or irony because there are thousands of gods and temples in India but uh in reality there is no gods it's all uh deities. So these are the deities. These are the beings those are living into the another dimension. And what happens if you call them um if you want to get this deity to your house uh there is some certain way if you call them in particular way what happens they will come with you really and uh they will do they will do the things for you.

So there are a lot of stories in that particular direction. So there are some kmas to call them and things like that. So this is true for the uh things those are living into another dimensions basically. Arun that is so interesting information. Um okay when you say deities there are different that entities right? Mhm. Mhm. So, so what what would be the difference from from your point of view or from your perspective uh religion or your your belief? What is an entity and what is a deity? Deity.

Deity is an entity. Okay. It's an entity. It's the same. Okay. Entity is not an deity but a deity is an entity. Oh, okay. And I assume there are bad entities and good entities maybe. Exactly. Yeah. Okay. So, but also the bad good and bad is depends on the person's ideology. For example, you can call a particular deity and uh uh use this particular deity or particular spirit against some other person's life.

like for example to kill the other person or uh to do some black magic to other person things like that. So this is possible. So but when we look into this ideology the person who does the thing feels this is a right thing to do and the person who under goes this thing will feel this is a bad thing to go through.

Okay. So it depends on the uh perspective where the person is looking into one situation whether it is a good entity or bad entity but it's just the entities entities. So Aron, let me ask you something. Uh when this situation happened to me, I was through I was going through a a hard situation in my life. At that time I had a fight with my ex-husband and I felt really sad and I felt with anger a mix of emotions and there is a theory here in in in US in this side of the world that if you are going through a like a low energy or or low vibration like a having this like your spirit is not in a good shape because you are feeling angry, you are feeling sad. These entities can attack you because they are from like a low or uh low low energy, low vibration is Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. When you are weak, when you are weak, other persons can attack you very easily. You see? Okay.

So your beliefs is is the same to like thatology in Okay. Good. Yeah. Because that happened to me precisely. I was really sad because my my youngest son he couldn't come to to my house for for vacations and I was yeah I was sad and at the same time felt anger you know and yeah maybe is something that I said is like a for example is the immune system from the spirit uh from your spirit uh side or something like that like when you for example because your immune system fight against virus bacterias and when it's not strong enough you could get you could get sick right it is similar in the spirit realm uh your spirit is not strong enough your immune system is not is not strong enough and you are prone to to be attacked to this Exactly exactly So the this is what the adharveda the book one of the veeda the last veda that that speaks about the uh different entities and the medicines and rituals that solve the uh because in that particular book uh all the all the problems all the health issues they are seeing it as the um attack of entities from different dimensions and uh also So they use medicines along with the mantras. So you know you know we burn uh medicines in um we call it as homa. We put a lot of medicines and you know offer that to particular deity. So along with the mantra. So what we burn is actually the uh medicines. So so this medicines can increase your energies and along with the mantras. So this is like you know a very um very effective way.

So so what would be a mantra is like a something that you have to say firmly to like to decret something. What is exactly when you said mantra? Mantra is a chant like uh uh there are sounds you know there are you understand the concept of yantras right? It will it will start from the root base and things like that and sagas is goes to sastrada.

We take the prana from the root chakra and uh take to the sagas. So the prana the energy of the prana which level the prana is there uh that much good you will be. So what happens in the uh uh each each yandra has one one sound associated with that. So we basically say only seven uh uh chakras in our body but uh there are multiple chakras in our body. So each mantra each sound will activate uh these uh chakras in one way or another way. Yeah I' I've heard about chakras is like a when people have these ESPs they say like the third eye is open right because it's one Okay. Okay. Got it.

Yeah. Well, definitely. I mean, I've heard something about it, but I'm not expert. I I need to read more. Well, it is. See what what I'm trying to say is that I'm I'm not trying to when I'm talking that you know it may be the problem of the psychological effort. Uh when I'm talking about that is because uh it's not just uh uh um you know um physic uh it's not just the third eye opening. It can be a psychological problem also. So we have to be really like you know there is only a small difference between that dimension and this dimension. You can be either become pure insane or you know this is this is possible. So investigation is very important when the ears are. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. So definitely my son his childhood ad adolescence uh all the time he saw a lot of things. I had to bring him to a shaman uh like a witch and she told me you you have a little witch because your son has the third eye open. So she did some cleanse on him and he his visions reduced still he's still sensing things but he doesn't see much at this time but he experienced many things actually one day the the reason I brought him to this person is because one day he called me saying mom your prayers don't work because somebody grabbed uh somebody grabbed have when when he was doing homework, somebody grabbed her his leg.

Mhm. So, so but anyway, I was going to ask you something about when you mentioned deities. Uh I've heard about Sai Baba. Actually, he's a guru. He's a guru. Okay. He's a was like a like a spiritual guide.

Leader. Yeah. Spiritual leader. So the gurus are uh they have an ability to take you to the uh spiritual realm. They can take you to the other dimension by a touch or by a mantra or something like that. So these are the gurus basically.

Okay. Okay. And other thing that I was going to ask you Arun, do you think this like a third eye or the chakra can be open or what is your belief about people with ESP? They they born like that or you can develop it.

You can you can develop also you most of the people uh I mean almost everybody gets birth with the ESP but uh the problem is that the society is not uh ready to accept that or uh they are not ready to nature it like you know they are not ready to develop it they because it's social conditioning if you look into a lot of uh tribes though they are living in the woods. Um some peoples will be their leader by by just possessing the um ESPs. And if we look into the ancient cultures the the people who are having the ESPs become the leader and they advise the king B with the help of their ESPs basically. Okay.

So these things are possible. So most of the people because our senses has an ability to extend a lot. So but the social conditioning or the society standards will not be able to help you in that particular way. So what happens how the ESPs are developing is because if you can uncondition uh whatever the knowledge you got from the life you will possess ESP.

Okay. Okay. So that is how you develop. You are actually learning to unlearn like you know you I mean if you read about Ju Krishna Morti you know that if you know how to learn to unlearn uh then you can basically develop um okay you know yeah right well actually well and we've been talking about your son what what happened like you know you talking about your son is possessing ESPs. Can you talk about that? What was the Yes. Yes. Uh he when he was probably four or five years old, he used to tell me, "Mom, um I'm afraid something is going on in my room." So, and like a probably like a three nights every week, he was there next to my bed saying that he felt things. So when I asked him, okay, what is going on? He used to tell me, "Mom, the walls of my room uh got alive. They they breathe." And I was, "No, no, no. You you were dreaming.

You were imagining uh never pay attention to my poor son. To be honest, time passed and he was telling me all the time things and the only um the only thing I I I used to tell him, okay, you have to do your prayers.

Maybe you didn't do your prayers in the night and you uh you had nightmares, right? Mhm. Uh but he was sleepwalking like suddenly he was next to my bed. Mhm. So when he was probably 10 years old, one day he was playing in the park and he entered the house saying, well, he didn't say anything, but I could see his face and I asked him what happened.

I thought he was probably, I don't know, playing with a friend and they got in a fight. I don't know. He told me, "Mom, I saw something really bad in the park." Mhm. There was a dark figure. I couldn't see his face. To me was like a probably a guy, a man, but I didn't see the face.

And he was in the middle of the park with a like a sorry uh like a with a hoodie, like a black tunic uh rove and with a extended uh arms to the to the to his side and looking to the to the floor and he said, "I saw it, mom. I swear." And when I turn again to look at him, was not there. Disappear. Mhm. So that was one of the the occasions. Then once he told me, "Mom, I believe I saw your grandma, my mom's mom. And my grandma passed away many years even when I mean before I got married. So he didn't meet my my grandma. There was no pictures of her like in the family pictures. The only few pictures my mom has from my grandma is when she was young. So my son described my grandma perfectly well even with a purple clothing when when was birth. Mhm. So and that day when he told me that I was like a that is so weird that my son is telling me that and I started to believe that he has this type of ability. Mhm.

Then um his grandfather from his dad's side passed away and that was when I got divorced from from from his dad. I was not with him. But my son told me that he was in the cemetery in in in his uh granddad funeral and he said, "Mom, I saw a boy like a four years old boy playing in the graves and I know was a ghost because I could see through him.

He was playing in in between the the graves with a pin wheel and suddenly poom disappeared in front of my eyes and oh my god. So many situations like that room happened to my son. Mhm. And when I took him to this person is because is he called me like mom your prayers don't work. He's still continuing seeing these entities. The other thing he used to see a lot his bedroom was in the second floor and somebody was passing through through his window. So it was not possible because was a second floor, right? Mhm. And so he used to see this entity a lot like a like a shadow uh person and and vanished like a in in thin air.

So is when when I started believing that my son has this ability because my grandma exactly the same. I grew up I mean when my parents got divorced my grandma live with us. She was taking care of of me and my sister and oh my god she used to see all kind of bad entities like a really bad entities. Mhm. Uh and because she was so Catholic, she wanted to pray the rosary and she said that somebody was next to her like a black mass, like a dark figure trying to distract her.

Mhm. So, so I think this was I mean from my my my grandma passed to my my son this ability because I I don't I don't explain how why my son has this and still sees well he doesn't see much he yeah that's what I exactly said when a child is there he has espec it's it's it's in different level like it can it.

I mean books are saying it can be passed from generations. Um like you know the blood has a purity like so this can be passed from generation the books are saying in that particular way and I have observed the kids are generally having the ESPs basically. So when they grow up what happens due to the conditioning they start to lose this particular ability. And this is what I have observed this happens is yeah is what I what I've known too like the ch children are more like susceptible to see things and actually my sister had like a imaginary friend and I think a lot of kids are like that but nowadays my son has these weird dreams like a vivid dreams when like for example the last situation happened like a a year ago, less than a year ago. We were in a hotel and my son, he senses like a bad vibes, like a bad energies. Mhm. He said that when he was in the elevator, he felt something really weird and like suddenly all the sounds got mute like a weird weird like a he didn't hear any sound from like a regular hotel uh people walking talking I don't know like the the fans or something like that and he felt he he was afraid because he he was turning to see everywhere. He couldn't see anything, but he felt something really weird. So he said that in the night he had this vivid dream that a woman was chasing him but was like a like a ugly like a spectre chasing him but he this spectre was trying to to kill him and he he woke up like uh oh my god what is that and he felt a lot of uh he was afraid he didn't want He didn't want to tell me anything. That night I couldn't sleep. I don't know why. My husband was moving a lot. All night I couldn't sleep. And my son didn't tell me until time ago like a month later because he said I didn't want to scare you mom. I didn't tell you but there was something in that hotel that I could feel really really weird.

So he has this ability and he has also for example situations like uh he can guess things like a like a psychic ability like for example he was in the classroom one day and this has been told in many uh episodes so people know about this he was in the classroom yeah the things like a cla voice cla vo and these are all the part of the USPS basically.

Yeah. Yeah. So, so that teacher arrived and that teacher said, "Guess what?" And everybody thought was going to be like a surprise test and my son didn't even know his life and he suddenly said that, "Oh, your wife is pregnant." And and the teacher said, "How did you know that?" So many situations like that or to see actually a room people like for example people that are in a different city and but he he has seen them like for example once he was with a friend and he saw his dad uh he saw his friend's dad and when my son mentioned that he his friend said, "No, no, no. That is not possible. My dad is not in the city. My dad is is out in the business trip." And my son told him, "I just saw your dad." And my son said that was so strange because when he saw the the the the person, my son said, "Hey, good morning or good afternoon." And this person didn't even look at him and didn't even answer. It's like I just passing and situations like like that he has experience with other people.

Yeah, it's um Yeah, I don't know. At this point, he doesn't like to talk much about this stuff because obviously it's not for him. It's not good to feel like bad vibes or bad bad energies. Mhm. Mhm. Um so like um where and all people's can find you how people's can Okay. So I have uh my podcast is in English and Spanish. Actually I started in Spanish because it's my my native language but I'm translating my episodes English. Yes. Hola.

So my the the name of my my podcast is Chronicles Chronicles of the Unexplained. Uh and I release episodes every week, Spotify, all the uh podcast platforms, YouTube, Spotify, Apple Podcast, Amazon Music. Uh people can find can people can find me there. And I have a web page, a a blog that my husband manages is uh www.

unexplainedodcast.net. And if you go there, you can see all the collaborations I've made with other podcasters both in English and Spanish. [Music] So if they want to know, if people want to know more about ESPs and things like that, they could connect with you. Well, yeah, because uh if they go to my episodes, I talk about all the stories that my uh son has told me, stories about what happened to my husband. My husband is uh he has experienced really creepy situations. He worked once in a morg. The the title of the episode is that the morg. Uh I talk about the house that I grew up next to a cemetery. All the situation that happened to my grandma happened in the family. We had some kind like a witchcraft situation as well with family. Uh we've been through a lot of things but thank God nothing that can be uh like a regretted right.

So we are so we didn't actually uh it would be interesting to know about the witch your witchcraft uh um experience basically if you are getting like generally if people are getting uh problem with this unexplained things like you know from the spirits and souls they generally go to the people who does the witchcraft. Um what was is there any experience with that like you know what how do you yeah what what what was that like? So there was a situation in the past room. My mom went to the mechanic because something was failing in the car and uh uh the mechanic uh got a like a voodoo doll. Mhm. Mhm. Uh was like a black with a shape of the of the doll of the doll with many things inside like a hair pictures uh like a pieces of pictures and the mechanic told my mom, "Oh no, this is so bad. Something some someone uh wants to do something bad to you. Don't touch it.

Get rid of it. Burn it or something." Uh and my mom didn't believe in that. We I didn't believe in that. So many situations happened to my mom Aron. We could be talking another hour here. Many many many situations. Uh she got all kind of uh accidents in in different cars, not just in that specific car. Uh we spent many uh we had many situations in that house having this like a infestation of animals like mice uh and we moved to another house. We got roaches. And I mean, my mom was all the time, you have to clean, you have to clean. And we were cleaning and we were trying to organize and and and get everything clean. But for any reason, we had this weird infestations.

Uh bad luck, no money, uh bad bad luck to my mom's specifically to her. Mhm. And so but this happened for many years, many many many many years and there was a person in the family well that used to visit us and we thought maybe was this person because he wanted to like for example, oh I'm going to do this repair uh bring me um Muryasi aid. Mhm. and like oh what what you need that for is is so dangerous. Oh I'm gonna fix this I don't know plumbing something and I mean it's is our theory that probably was this person but we don't know. Mhm.

Um many many bad looks is is is in is in general like my mom for example uh because my parents got divorced. He was about to get married again with a person and suddenly that person died like a out of nothing he died and and bad bad bad look to my mom.

So then we realize Arun with a time because I have a friend that knows a person that has this medium or psychic abilities and he saw the picture of my mom and she said, "You know what? Yes, there there is a person that wants to do some something something bad to your mom, but your mom is protected. Your mom is protected for the uh uh Michael the Archangel because my mom thank God is healthy but he has been through a lot of situations.

We have been through a lot of situations like for example once we were in the in the house normally and somebody like uh with a uh order from a judge you have to leave the house in this precise moment.

So all the all the things all the furniture everything was put in the h in the in the street. So many situations like that we we we faced and yeah really bad luck. So that voodoo doll or that thing I mean was obviously that somebody wanted to do something really bad to my mom. So yeah that is a uh the story and and I yeah the the it's a good idea to talk about the voodoo which is from India and from the you know from your country what are the voodoo are there from both the places there are a lot of voodoo we also has like you know it's basically a lot of research can be done so maybe we can do another episode on that like you know yes possibly yeah yeah yeah we'll be we'll be Yeah. Yeah. Perfect. Yes. I'm I'm more than happy. Aron, thank you for having me. Thank you for your time.

Thanks for inviting me. And you want to say something to the uh visitors? Yes. I want to encourage your audience to be a little bit open to this spiritual realm. Is it because people like there are a lot of people out there saying, "Oh, no, that doesn't exist." Because people want to see and touch things, but there are things that you can see and you can touch, but that doesn't mean that don't exist. So be careful what you wish. Uh send blessings to your audience and to you as well, Aron. Mhm. Uh regardless of the beliefs, I mean you could believe in your deities uh different gods or different deities.

In my case, I believe in God. It is one only for me. Regardless of that, I send blessings to your audience and uh not uh nurture your yourself uh your spirit with a with a faith. Have faith in something. It doesn't matter. that it is important to have faith and thank you again for your time Arun.

Thank you for joining me today for the uh episode and giving me a lot of time for uh you know we have we did it in two days actually like yeah thank you for being into thanks thanks Arun or see you Thanks.