Philosophy Of Mahavidyas

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uh good evening everyone in uh today's podcast we'll talk about the Tas Maha vidas and the path that leads an individual to transcend one's current state of reality and uh also to get connected with the higher Consciousness the divine feminine in his second book it's her Arun VM has explored the tantric path that includes the dasas the mahavidyas and the yantas so my question to you Arun is uh how are mantras mudras yantas pranayams bandhas and the yogic postures are I mean relevant in the Journey of Tantra so could you please elaborate of that see the thing is like we have um I mean we have looked into the Tantra as an esoteric part that could Trans in the reality so now when we like you know um so in order to Transcendent the reality you should be having some sort of understanding that the you yourself is inseparable from the existence basically so if if you look into the modern psychology what happens is that the if if you look into the books of the psychology what it is generally like you know it will go on labeling the people like you know the it will say this man is schizophreniac and that man is a split personality and that man is that and this and so this is how the modern psychology works like you know but uh the when we go beyond the mind I mean mind is also the uh product of uh self basically like because my mind is keep changing that the thing which is keep mind is actually changes because so the anything which changes is actually not the not the thing which is constant which means that the self which is constant that is not which is not changing so to get into to experience these things uh energy flows has to be corrected the mind has to be corrected The Prana has to be corrected and the way we interact with the existence has to be corrected all these things needed a deep practice so that's why there is in the Tantra practices all these mudras and Bas and everything has been so much necessary you know okay so uh AR my uh now if you since we talking about the D Mah vas in this podcast specifically so uh could you please introduce us to the philosophy the about the the related to the D mahavidyas and which is the way it is explained in tantri texts and scriptures see the if you look into the um if we look into the Kali like you know the uh how do we tap it her like you know if we you look into her imaginary or uh her uh the the way he been shown in the temple uh she's wearing a skull uh necklace and uh she has a long tongue with the you know it is very reddish in color and uh she's like you know like she's really fearful if you if you look into her like you know you you you will feel your fear yeah so when we do the mahavidya sadhana the Kali what we are exactly working on is our own fear the mind has a problem it has a fear that stops you from doing something so in in this particular thing we are exactly working on our fear and we are trying to see uh how good we can in contact we can come in contact with our own fear so that is what K is actually shows like you know if if you do the Shadow Self huh the Shadow Self shadow shadow self that that is basically your fear basically uh Shadow is if if you look into the modern psychological terms is written by K Jung like you know I mean k Jung is the psychologist who introduced the concept of the Shadow Self Shadow is something which has been hidden on you on your mind and that grows when you grow up like you know maybe it might be trauma and things like that like you know like some some love failure which has been happened in your life or uh you the you may be seeking the support of uh your family members on something and that is not being provided all these things are your Shadow this this will kept this will be in the mind you know and this will be keep growing and uh this this take a turn as a fear actually so okay when when you when you keep this as a fear this will prevent you from doing something which you really want to do because the problem with this is that mind will actually relate whatever is been happened in your life previously with the situation which is happening right now so even though the outcome could be favorable or nonfavorable we will really don't know but uh the Mind stops you from doing things uh at present so this is your fear uh so if you if you really do the mudras and the Puja I mean the not Puja I don't the ritual the ritual meditation meditation is what I prefer like you know uh so the uh puas are like you know it's in a way basically the ritual it's a ritual I mean the puas basically kept this traditional life uh without the dead you know if I mean if you look into the yogis who are living a very remotely as a Hermit you know they they are they are not into uh um um uh rituals basically they do a lot of practices in order to unveil the the secrets of the universe reality how the reality looks like they do the stuffs to get that thing out so this is what they are basically doing and so uh these are a set of practices and if you look into the Khali this is what it is so you are doing the Puja you are doing the ritual you are making the uh yantra and uh uh in some particular certain way you are controlling your breath and you are taking your Prana and you focus on that particular yra and in some certain place you give uh um forces and you Transcendent that Force into that particular inra so what happens here is that your fear uh is been getting freed from your on self uh so the whatever may be that it could be uh from this birth it could be from the previous birth or it could be from the previous previous birth this fear is been imprinted if if if if a soul which is has a body this fear is already there so this fear has to go out this is what happens with the uh K's uh presence or this is what happens with the uh you know kandra meditation you are basically uh uh giving out uh your fear um that that that is which is needed to be healed uh and yeah that is your Darkness basically so the one way to the Soul's darkness is your Darkness the darkness of the soul the darkness of the soul that gets healed when one actually invokes KH that's what you want to say through mantras and the you you you channelizing your own fear which is inside you uh through Kali so this is what it is happens here like you know so you are purifying your own self basically uh like uh see this is this is your darkest self also like you know you might be having dark wishes in your mind uh you know like you know to fight with somebody or dream and uh you know so run some places or the or Sky jumping or uh jumping from some pude or these sort of things are actually maybe hidden inside you and you really want to do this stuff and something which is social norms or something that is preventing you and you will never know what would be the outcome the easiest way to approach your fear is to do what you really uh want to do that prevents uh that the the something is preventing you from doing that particular thing so the outcome will be CI and you you will what what happens is that the here you will come in direct contact with your fear and you know this this is the Kali mahavidya is uh about it's basically your fear Shadow and the darkest self of you you know okay so please tell us about Tara I mean the rest of the mavas what about Tara and the other mavas yeah how how what do you understand by uh when you are talking about so what would you tell about her um so when we are talking about the one of the mahavidya which is Tara the Tara is the goddess of protection okay so when you meditate on Tara you should basically see how far you could go to uh protect somebody like if somebody is uh looking for protection from you you know um how far far uh you will be able to go to that particular person and protect uh uh him or her so basically the side of protection uh is what the Tara is actually you know uh showing so can I ask you something you're saying how far can you extend yourself regarding protecting someone so what do you mean by that how far in that sense is like the physical I mean in what sense if you can give an example it becomes easy for people to understand also um the there is a story in puranas like you know the uh I for harichandra the um the the one who is actually given uh he always uh stick with the his uh you know words somebody came to uh protection and that is like you know one the the way he is actually dying and coming out from the death is like you know the bird came to him and it is asking it needed the flesh equal to um you know it's um its weight and um from his body so he said okay and he started to cut his body and you know it is not happening and and uh so the this this is the this is the extension where we can see the uh how far somebody can go to protect somebody like you know to the extreme basically okay and that is Raja Harish Chandra did something that was extraordinary during his times yeah but in in current times if you see so if you can give some example which is more relevant that that sort of extension like you know how far that this is a symbolism this is a symbolic story that goes from I mean that is still alive like you know so this is the extent of the protection he can go to protect that bird from the uh the circumstan which is happen yeah the circumstan which is happens like you know so that that can you will you be able to go that far in the um in the extension of uh protection so this is what the Tara is actually uh showing there and if you are not able to go that particular extension like you know that particular exent to protect somebody uh if you uh ask to the Tara in some certain way with her Yas and mandas the universe itself will change uh uh in the shape of Tara and it will fulfill for you and so that that is okay so you can pray to Tara if not that way you can actually pray to Tara to protect that individual right the way you want or something that's what the universe will take the form of Tara like you know we have we we actually the yantas and mantras and these things has mudras and these things are a lot of years of practice and uh people say practiced and uh they understood with the help of that they can change the reality in the way they want so when you do this the universe this particular energy will form in the universe in a way that uh uh uh in the in the in in the way of protection like uh from any troubles you are facing or uh um or something which is happening in your life where you need protection so Tara can help you and if you are in the way of a self-realization try to be become Tara like you know so you can actually understand how far you can go in order to uh what is what is the real meaning of protection in the sense of wisdom so what I am trying to say over here if you look into the r Mahari uh if you look into the things which he had did he got an experience of the death by the age of 14 and he become nothing and he went toal and he started to think who am I am I the body am I the um am I the Mind am I the Consciousness and he found out it's better to ask who am I so what is happening here like you know you can go into superc Consciousness like you know you can increase your Consciousness in the way which uh like a flower like you know the things which you want and you can be become fruitful and the same way you can go to the bottom like uh uh the death uh like you know death is the bottom like you know that there it's inactive I mean you are either alive or you are dead you are dead to the zero St mhm so the subconscious the bottom of the subconscious the r Mahi went you know he is not went into a superc conscious like you know when I'm talking about the superc conscious like um if if you look into oroa the arinda Mahari he is very super conscious he created that particular Village and he attracted the people from different parts of the world and uh uh the lifestyle of that particular Village in the picer has been changed and he created things in the way very beautifully and the community over there is very supportive and it is very Intercultural support Intercultural Community uh things like that and if you look into the or show he went into rein show show he went into the Super conscious and he was able to attract a lot of people and he is able to do the he even created a village called reinish puram in the America and fun on everybody you know so this is this is super conscious and if you from there there is subconscious also the bottom of the subconscious if you if you go into RAM Mahari he went into the bottom of the subconscious he he is below death what is that behind death he went into there like you know because the death scared him a lot at the age of 14 he felt like he is dying then he went into is this the mind or then he came out with the answer and that he was able to Transcendent to the people who came in search of him like there are many people are actually scared of death right like I mean most of the over here are most of us most of the people are here is scared of death so these peoples came there and he was able to Transcendent how does it feel when when you are D what is that Beyond Death he was able to transcend and give the experience to the people who came there so the that sort of dedication this is what I'm talking when uh when you are going into the protection that's what I meant by that okay uh so now what what is the next who is the next Mah we have S yeah so if we look into the picture of Shi or the trii uh we can see she is at the age of 16 uh this c age is actually 16 and she is so beautiful and pretty you know everything is color color and stuffs like that so when you are in at the age of 16 you have a lot of wishes you know uh you have yeah aspirations and stuffs like that and when you grow up like you know there is lot of problems happens you don't come out from this particular aspiration and it may not be able to fulfill also so what shorty does is that if you have not able to fulfill this particular aspirations which is happened at the age of 16 you will not be able to live your life fully what happens here over the Kali Your Shadow is reflect everywhere you you relate what happened at the age of 16 and you know what the what the things which is been uh going through life that you try to relate to the present situation and bring all these problems to the present situation and that stops you from living the life fully so that is what the shorty is all about she is at the age of 16 and if you if you really feel her if you really uh use The Prana techniques and the mudra and Yas to uh fulfill her you you were you were you were wishes on at the edge of 16 will be get fulfilled or it will go out from your mind so uh you will be become more free at present you know this is what the short is actually does so B balaur say balaur and trii they are like mothers and daughters or they are the same is just the age uh is different uh who are I mean both the DS are same or they're separate uh like you know when we look into this I am I'm not uh going to you know um uh there is a religious uh fundamentalism around this particular concept when we are talking about the spirituality I mean religion is different from spirituality religion is a religion is basically fundamentally try to stop people to be become fully grown because yeah fully free because it will give you lot of ideas like you know you have to be like that and even some religions will give ideas like you know after death you will get um the river full of uh you know milk and full of uh liquor and stuffs like that you imagine if you are in if you are nearby a river which is full of milk it will be so smelly you see [Music] religion is basically stupid what I'm trying to see is that the uh the philosophy of the religion that that that is what the that is that is the thing which gives the life basically so when we look into the concept of Tri in that idea so if you are able to consecrate if you are able to focus your Prana and your Shakti in that particular way that will change the universe will change according to your way and give the way for you in order to trans the things according to you and help you to do that so basically Tri what she does is like she will free you from a lot of thoughts which is been happened at the age of 16 and it will see you from that like you know um whether the fear of death because you don't know what is there after the life that's why the most of the time fear of death comes because mind is the thing because mind has no way to know uh what is there after the death you know so and after the death there will not be mind also so my there is a really a reason for mind to imagine that there is something scary happens after that so that is what the um that is what the short she does okay now comes after person is Chasta so no there is a it's next one is bhari bharari bhanwari is the goddess of creation so basically what it does is like the formation of that particular yra and mudra if you focus on that like what happens is that uh you know your creativity will get increased you know uh so she is the goddess of creation so if you are a painter like you know you the the the painting doesn't comes from intellect I mean if the paintings comes from the intellect then it is actually not original it has to come from the plane which is beyond the intellect so the bhanwar that can help you to tap into that particular World which is beyond the imagination potential yeah intellect basically so that you will get visions and visuals and stuffs like that and you can transcend that into the particular yeah so the that is the bhes basically okay so next is chi p is the goddess if you look into her imag image the how she is actually being shown in the temples and stuffs like that by is the Dos basically so it's it's a godess of Decay you know the when when you have something in your mind that has to be get decayed you know in order to to be become free uh whatever there in your mind it has to be eliminated like you know it's death like you know whatever died is it's not just your body is there is some things which will get eliminated from our body whatever is not needed in our body so the similar way there is uh something which is not needed in our mind also is there that has to be entered that has to be destroyed so here the pyi is the goddess she helps to Decay that stuff like you know so what happens in reality if you if you uh if if you do a lot of B sad dogs will not be bark on you I mean if you are a thief like you know like this this I have observed like you know if you increase the chant of uh the uh particular de uh what happens is that the dogs will stops barking on you uh because particularly or any other any D Babi particularly the what happen is this is this because V is also V vehicle is also Mount is also the dog is it so yeah B is been said as like you know one Avatar of Shiva like you know so B like even the mudras also like you know the we are doing in the um the mudra is opposed to the B mudra bavi mudra is opposite to the B mudra so this is the feminine of this particular energy and fale concert the feminine concert of yeah so so this is this is what which happens here so this will actually Decay whatever is not needed in your mind so the what happens is that the the the the area which is not needed to be in your mind that will get decayed in this particular energy so that is an example Give an example please like uh we spoken about Kali Kali is your Shadow and the shadow sir how the shadow has been coming out Shadow is coming out because there is something which is in your mind which which which went deeply and this keeps creating some stuffs in the uh you know um uh St some Shadow uh which is in the form of Khali and you reflect that shadow into the things which is happening right now around you so the thing which is there really deep inside your mind that is what need to be healed like you know uh I mean the the wound also some wounds also is so necessary yeah uh these things are very necessary why because the roomi says if there is if there is a hole then only light can come inside from the outside you know um so this is what R is the same way that there is something is there it need to be healed I mean that that is hidden inside your mind this will be get healed with the help of B sad basically so this this this what happens in the uh this is what the bab is actually about okay and what about the chinamasa or chin so chintia if we look into her mudra it's it's like you know you are really giving yourself to the other so when we are I mean the other in the sense the something which is outside of your body maybe it is in the form of goddess or whatever it may be like you know and that is why because of this reason chinamasa can be also the goddess of um um it's sexuality and intimacy also because uh if you have head you cannot experience love you know like if you are in love the love is basically a feeling if you really want to experience the love and if you have intellect which is stopping you from experience the love you will never experience love because love love can be I mean love is true only always because it's a feeling it's it's it's not um something I mean I don't I'm not so sure how many people are experience the love as a feeling basically because if you look into that it is really a feeling only like like there the moment you think whether this guy is going to be with me or this woman is going to be with me or we are going to get married or things like that what happens there is head is involved and what what happens over here is that the um you you stop yourself from experiencing the love so when you cut out your head and you really losing your intellect what happens is that you can really experience the the the feeling of selflessness is is not creating some outer Consciousness or anything that s it's about creating the perfect Consciousness in you like you know this is the chin is being um I mean if you if you do the practice is very correctly what happens the outside world also will um change according to you and the universe will give you the wishes in the way which you really needed this is really help okay okay tell me something s chinasa she's standing on rati as well as Kam right so that depicts his a god of love in the sanatan and thean so if that is so and if she's standing on them so that is a very contradictory image which she the entire iconography portraits uh she signifies self-sacrifice as as well as and the contrasting images like she's standing on rati and kamd in a certain who areh don't you think that the contrasting image there must be some reason behind this contrasting image that's what I'm she is chinasa basically she cuts out her own head so and if you don't cut out your head you will never get love okay so that's that's what you're saying that it is like the heart it's the common saying which people say is like the heart ruling the mind or the heart ruling the brain or the brain ring the heart so it should be the in this case it should be the heart ring the brain right that's what it says like if you put head in love you will never experience love maybe some matter of convenience yeah if you really want to experience love really deeply the moment you put in the head into love is your loss other person is not going to lose because this is this is one experience which life can give you you understand you know so if you are not open to this experience you will never experience the experience of the life so this is I mean then there is life don't have any meaning if you don't have any experience in the life like you chinasa she's also a 16year old girl is that so somewhere I had there are she's a young girl she is almost like you know under 30 and uh she's more than 16 because she's more than of course more than 18 basically oh okay okay okay okay she's more than 18 s she is 16 and she's 18 plus yeah 18 plus she is basically who has decided all these ages for the goddesses I [Laughter] wonder 16 one is a child goddess one is in the Adolescent State one is in her 20s one is in her 30s and then later on it is Kali and Thea comes in different different ages at the age of 16 you will never you will never really go into the love basically maybe you get some experience of attachment or that sort of stuff like you know like U you will never be able to understand this is love for no but when you cross the 20 and 21 and steps like that what happens is that your head start to work and you start to think whether it is love or no and things like that if you really identify yeah so the if you look into the Ala AKA mahadevi like you know she is one of the yogini in um Karnataka area of the Karnataka so she walks mude basically she don't wear any just she walk nud and go to one place to another and only Shiva Shiva so such sort of uh Transcendence s such sort of transcendence will only happens when you don't have head you know and nobody has ever did anything wrong to her that is the thing understood so basically the ages in the scriptures now I'm coming just asking a question which is slightly uh related and obviously I'm slightly curious to know that so the ages that we uh I was just asking you that who has defined all the ages for the de in the scriptures so those are also based on uh the you know the experience es one has at various stages of life and they are being associated with the Deus in that way that's how the uh you know the iconograph is and that's how the aspects of the attributes of the goddesses having portrait or the gods and goddesses having portrait right that's how things are been done yeah okay Chinas Association the iconographic association with the you know the there's a Detachment the self Detachment as well as the uh you know the emotion to the feelings of love unconditional love or yeah the thing is like you know if you detach it from yourself then only you can Love Actually I mean if you are self attached you will never experience love okay so that way that's how the rati and the C know the association comes in okay uh okay now what about the next mahavidya it's a the so what about DTI so when we are looking into Duma Duma is basically like she's bit old more than uh I mean she's widowed herself and uh she is old more than the 50 60 years of the age and and she's basically alone and you know and she is also been there is Crow also is been uh coming with her and all sort of stuffs like that so when we look into dumadi the the this is basically the old age worries the old age worries uh old age worries can happen when you are in at the when you are really old also also old age worries can happen at present also like uh uh basically when uh people started to get aged they will start to increase the longivity of their body uh by doing some sort of by giving some sort of supplements and uh things like that so this is basically your old age worries if you are worrying about your old age you will never been able to live your life completely or fully at present so this is what the dumadi signifies so what do so if you if you if you do the dumadi Sana this is basic this is what basically it will take out your old AG worries from you and it will help you to uh live uh you know the without the worries of the old ages uh sat uh is she has the qualities this is a core energy and yeah sat sat sat Shen M mahma the Saturn the the god basically it is also associated with the crow basically uh it is really signifies if we look into the vi astrology when you are in the sattin mahad desha it's basically signifies you have to do a lot of uh job uh I mean a lot of hard work because a lot of hardship will come into your um Shen mahad so uh when you do the Dum sad in the Saturn's influence uh like you know it will help you to go through this particular uh trouble in the life you know okay seamlessly mhm yeah so that's uh that's what the basically uh uh dumadi signifies this basically takes out your oldage worries and things like that okay so and is it advisable I was reading it somewhere and that uh know married women they cannot they should not get into the sad is it so something like that is it correct or is is a myth about it married women like you know if they are not in chinnamasta I will advise them to go to I mean when I saying married women not in Chasta means if she still has heard when in the relationship uh she will not be able to go through the relationship very correctly there is always frictions will happen so I advise them to be go to uh D then because if the Detachment is happening then give the full Detachment instead of acting something uh you know which doesn't work and uh making it to work uh you know um by doing some drama or anything that sort it's better to go to the Dum directly because she somehow she is also she's actually B herself like you know and and if you if they really want if the uh the thing is like if some DTI prog is been done what happened the in your life when I'm talking about your life uh the the married partner will go away from one way or another if he is not so conscious about what is happening he can come into some accident like you know if and uh that relationship can break uh in uh I mean for the betterment basically okay for the betterment of the spiritual awakening of the lady of the lady I mean the one who is performing whoever is doing it you take medicine if you have yeah if you you take only medicine if you are uh you want to get something done I mean if you are not feeling well then only you will take medicine and the medicine has to give cure and this is what happens uh I mean in in in in some certain way this is what vas are saying actually means everybody is not same this is the truth of life God is Not communist I'm not so say like you maybe I'm richer or maybe I'm poorer or maybe I'm intellectually good or maybe I'm not intellectually good the the the the different people are different actually so there is no similarities exist basically so we can say the in the Communist way we can say there is similarities are there and you know everybody is say we have to see everybody are same but nature is not like that this this is a fundamentally wrong philosophy because nature never work in that way everybody is not so same correct that is the truth basically right so uh tell me something so what is your advice I mean before I'll come to that question later that which mahavidya should be worshiped by uh especially uh you know the married women who are into uh strictly into the family life and people who are once one aspect I understood that you are talking about people who are so not so much into uh a relationship which especially when they are applying their mind a lot who are strictly independent minded they should be uh keeping themselves detached through the Dum sadana and all that otherwise they can think about chinamasa and uh any other uh dets that one should invoke when uh you know whether is a single lady or a married woman who should actually go for dhumavati or you know any not dhumavati but any other DS in particular especially from the T mahavidya segment see I would suggest chin namaska for the married people because there is a posture also which is called the Yum posture where uh I mean it's a sexual posture where men and women comes together and uh they can actually go really deeper into each other and this can be performed with the uh dumra so what what happens here is is that the the relationship basically when I'm talking about the uh um the uh physical intercourse in uh a little deeper level this is the the they they can experience the intimacy in a really deeper way so this is the I mean it is been given to the couple and basically some people's taking this out and uh you know marketing into a different way or whatever so maybe sexual pleasure or the engagement they are getting attracted to or whatever the sort like you know if you're really looking for a really deep intimacy uh this abum posture with the chinamasa is been advised like you know so that can be actually create the deeper intimacy between the partners basically so you talk you were saying that chinasa worship should be done by married women along with the Duma it's not like that no no no the it's the state of mind if if if a married women and things are not working and she want to get the things done for example he is he or she is uh not I mean she want him into her life and but he is like ambivalent so in that case she can actually Chas dantra chra oh that so so the D Dum if you want to get rid out of your uh partner okay so that particular energy will be get accelerated and the friction will happen and something will happen to the uh your partner so generally people say he will die or things like that but I didn't observe that but the marriage will get broken okay so what about Lita Tria and baneswar should they go for if if the girl is married or the lady is married they the LI the lighter on much more handable yeah the lighter ones are uh the like you know she's she's full of color color yeah but Kam we will come to yeah B is for Creative people so that can accelerate the creativity and Matangi is also into the she's the tantric form of Saras she she's also associated with art and culture right art and and culture um so now we are talking about the um you know uh we will come to mangi we will go to yeah bami first like you know uh so when we the next mahavidya is bami if you look into the bami you can see what she is doing is she is taking the tongue out of one person and cutting it away this is how you can see her iconography or the image basically correct so what is happens here if you really want to cut somebody's uh uh tank uh you know you have to be really wise yeah you have to be really wise you know uh meaning if you if you are seeing something which is um you know if you really want to change the situation according to you like something is actually happening to you and uh uh if you make sound that doesn't make uh uh you know it it will end up coring each other but if you are able to tell to the particular person in a more wiser way if you do this in uh this particular way this could be actually helpful for each other like you know according to the situation so effectively you are cutting the other person's tongue over there like you know so this B yeah stum is happening there so basically you're cutting that bami okay now the balami uh since I'm I have already you know I do bami chanting and I've been doing it since a long time uh I guess 2006 or something something but basically the bami gri and then the bami chant since 2006 somebody an exag had given it to me uh that had helped me also uh in handling certain situations uh certain aggression uh in the uh surrounding you know areas so tell me something uh what I had understood is that when it comes to some challenging Association the challenges in form of people bami for me it worked very well that because the situations could be handled and the other uh thing which I have read uh in you know some texts and all that that bam Muki also helps you to fight quases and you the political battles as SE politicians also going there even if you look into ATA like there are some proges has been done against I mean um from the Kings they do some proges against the an army like which they are coming to fight them so what is happening here they are basically calling the bami and uh when you are calling the belami uh the universe will listen to your prayer in some certain way because of the mudras and the indas and mandas you are chaning in some certain way universe will hear this particular thing and it will give uh problems to the other party in the way uh which they never respect for example you want to win a court case all of a sudden his vehicle won't start uh his lawyer will get uh flu um some peoples will happen some funds he is expecting it won't come so what is happening here is the universe is uh basically changing the things according to you okay so this is this is basically is uh uh done in uh the test which I have seen the prayers which is course really deeply is in to the bami okay so bami is also the cour case the political battles and also for obviously the defeating of enemies because when it comes to Rivals and opponents then obviously it is the same thing the enity and all that and it also uh is it so that some people going you know uh who are preparing for competitive exams and all that just since it is related to Mars energy so is it uh relevant if someone does bami or Mai I mean Mar is the Mars is the planet of fight so this is the so what happens is that here uh this particular energy will get accelerated so you you yourself will be become more able to fight because you are becoming more wiser and competitive also competive also in that way it will help you to fight in a better way because yeah competive stuff things like that okay now coming to now after bami comes is mangi yeah [Music] Matangi Matangi is the C is uh it's a tantri sarasti and uh the the uh when we look into mangi there is another form of mangi is the mangi so what is happen H what is happening here is that the if if you how polluted you can be like you know if you are in the Journey of uh uh finding your own self how polluted you can be this is what it is basically like you are giving if we look into the sad purpose you are giving U whatever is left left over like you know in nedia what is like you know basically you eat something and the left is been offered to the ma and when doing the Puja it is really opposite you should not take bath you know and you should not brush so this is the way you go for the Matangi uh so what is happening here it is uh the impure stuff the impurity on you you are really able to visualize and you reflect that on other and uh you can actually you know you can be become a sarasti like you know sarasti is when it is from Tantra to if we go to the other form of worship method we can see the sarui she is very pure if you are not destroying the impurities on you you will never been able to go to the pure one you know right so mangi she is portraited uh slightly aggressively because she has a sword in in her hands and she as the same time she's holding the Vina the way sarasti has only the color is different is like the green and Raja Mungi we find her sited on her throne uh so what is the difference between theisha Matangi and Raja Matangi who looks more Regal in her form and why this SW why that aggression is it like you know she has some similarity with the Greek goddess EA who is also the she's familiar with as well as knowledge and all that so could you please explain the difference in the iconography ofish Matangi and the Raja Matangi and for in the hand Mai basically like you know AA and like this is much later happened the Greek uh stuff uh I mean the um whatever happened in the gree has been much later than that of whatever happened uh in India we can see that in the I mean the chat yogini Temple built the whatevered philosophies and like so here the idea is that if you are never going if you are not crossing the if you are not able to visualize the dirtiest form of you you cannot really Transcendent your mind beyond your limitations you know this is what it is basically and the sword the symbolism of The Sword and the green why so the bluish green rather I should say it's what is the symbolism so basically um green is the color of the prti basically like you know if you look around it is really greenish everywhere so basically it is the when we look into the mahavidya sadana it is basically the worship of shaki shaki is nothing but it is PR if we look into the philosophy it is so is nothing but it is greenish like you know it's um it's the the whatever happens here the the V physical world which we can visualize is basically is in greenish color so this is basically like you know if you if you Transcendent the dirtiest aspect of you you could actually experience and you can go to the uh uh the mind which is is beyond the um you know the the the the beyond the ordinary mind this is the tund the way of Matangi depend like and the parot the parrot and the swan because if we see that the parrot is at the as the vehicle at the Mount of Matangi whereas when you're talking about sarasti we see the swan as well as at times the peacock so is there any relevance when you switch from since you're talking about the you know in terms of the Transcendence from mangi to the you know sarasti mode when you're talking about the you know the shifting so is there any difference in terms of the mount there must be some difference to it then why that kind of a portra like a parrot at mang's feet and whereas the swan as well as the peacock at in case of sarasti is is there any particular ER know look in really like you know um the uh the Pico andan is actually is considered be holy whereas the par is not that Holy you know see if if you look into um Tantra viya is basically uh basically to people who really want to do something so if you really want to do something with an ordinary mind you you will never been able to go deeply into the Tantra viya because an ordinary mind always look for the pleasure and you know it's always settle with what always settle with whatever the pleasureful has been happening you will never experience the uh depth of the life with an ordinary mindset and the Tandra is not for the people those who has the ordinary mind said because uh many people don't agree I mean uh uh you should worship a god without taking bath means what does it mean it's just opposite like people are generally offer holy stuff to God or goddesses and correct that you are coming out from that Transcendence because uh uh tantric concept is that if if God is helping you in holy way then God should help in this way also like you know so the God is um uh God is like a communist like you know he see everybody as the same like if you look into the uh some stories of the Shiva he only give uh the BS as well as no I mean he only helped the fasur also he only helped the Vish he gives the BS and then then both way the both the both people he only G helped whether you are an Asura God doesn't care whether you are a holy person God doesn't care because ultimately there is nothing called right or wrong is existing so to come into that sort of mindset uh you know the tantri PA if you take you really have to do really deeper sad if we look into the yogini sad peop will ask you to walk on the top of the you know knife and things like that and they jums into the you know the fire fire rituals and some temples some temples there is you know they put uh the hanging stuffs into the skin and they take in the vehicle and uh take them around the temple and uh sort of stuff uh so the so so to come into that sort of mindset the really deeper mindset you really need to detach from the uh um good and bad eff and this is the path this is for somebody who really want to do something it's not for somebody who really I mean okay okay okay I like you know it's it's not like you know I I mean uh the entire philosophy is to realize the self this is the ultimate goal basically so there is no dual nature between me and God there is not two different entity so understand the God and being God and becoming God is what the uh entire uh entire setup is basically about so this is how you can um go really deeper into the uh Tantra stuff and basically M uh shows how how deeper you can go in an impure impure way like you know how impure you can go this is what the basically mangir shows and um if you really want to I mean it's a kind of sarasi as well so it will actually increase your uh ability to perform the artworks and stuff like that helps and intellect sharpens the intellect that's also is that sharpen the intellect is basically balam's job basically okay okay so she's she make you wise art has nothing to do with the intellect if you are intellectual you canot enjoy and experience art art is totally different like you know art art comes from the uh you know uh I mean art is the appreciation towards the beauty it is it has nothing to do with yeah it has nothing to do with the Mind basically what the intellect yeah okay so now after Muni we have Kamala the last Kamala basically the goddess of success uh she is in yellow color and and uh you know it's basically after going through all these nine goddesses if you reach Kamala this is where the true success you come through all the kind of processes in the life and you went through all kind of experiences and you reached the Kamala which means that you are becoming a become a complete human being who experienced everything in life so she is the goddess of success okay and any other attributes because see iconographically Kamala is similar to gaj lakmi or mahalakshmi that's also another aspect to it so actually there should be some difference in the iconographies gajal lakmi Mahal lashmi as well as Kamala so if you could you know throw some light on that like you know to understand so the Kamala is generally you know if we look into most of the things she is sitting in top of an elephant basically and sometime the elephant is throwing the water on uh like that this is what you can see so the true success is like same as gaj lakmi because gaji what I'm trying to say is that what is true success true success is like you know uh there is an old saying that uh like if you are only you are rich when you are a when you are able to uh buy a legion you know then only you are actually a richer person and so what does it mean like you know uh if you want to come into that particular quality of Kamala you have to be really wise sharp intellect and everything has to be really you have to be really really extended self extended human being that uh this is what I was talking in the my first book look like you know so this is basically all this setup is to Transcendent your mind and go beyond the fear of death and understand death in a deeper way where you know Dum helps you she's and all this stuff and uh understand the death in the more deeper way and come out from the death and you know so this is the tantric PA this is this is why I say this is really an advanced uh practice all together okay so the gaji and the the Mahal lashmi thing that is a different path Al together right so that is more of the viic nature that's what that is what you would like to say Gods is being created like you know if you if you go I mean different regions has a different aspect of gods is been if we look into the the port yeah yeah it's been but the vas are the true thing uh where we have to look into I mean the basically we are into tantric but the AAA is the true stuff but because why after the vas the there is lot of variations in um um you know there is a variation in Kerala there is variation in Karnataka there is variation in Mumbai there is variation in Andra and there is variation inre you know so the thing is like we have Regional variations different Regional variations yes so there are original as as the cult the various Cults actually they have so if we really look for the truth the books I refer is like you know um vas and shankaras S also is the one of the best so uh if you could actually also mention in your description when so that people can go and refer to them about the vas with as well as you know the T Tex and the and whatever you should you may actually suggest to people that would actually help the audience also whoever wants to get deeper into the uh studies a now uh coming to the uh next question is like uh we have read about the connection of the nine planets and the Vishnu do avatars with d mahavidyas so could you please uh you know give a insight into this so the thing is like uh if we look into oldest history of India what was that that there are different religions basically shaktism is one religion and uh the shiism is another religion and vaishnavism is one religion and uh who United India people should say it is Gandhi no it's not Gandhi is Shankar aara is the one who United India he traveled from Kerala to the Kashmir and created stories so Vishnu is the the haapa is the son of Shiva and Vishnu and you know the um there is some other variation of Vishnu and some other part and these all stories he made and he connected this everything together and what happened is that the this give a pathway to the unit Union in India he United India in some certain way because this small minds can only understand things in that particular way you will I mean the deeper philosophy you cannot talk to the people yeah people who is doing the puas in the temple or some small people those who feel the God is the thing like you know they give up they go to the Temple and so they have uh something to talk to they have something to Ray on they have something to you know um um get something done like you know Fredick nature says is like you know the is a philosopher he says is that most of the peop like to live in illusion and don't try to kill their illusion why because the moment you kill their illusion they will die because they don't have any reason to live for so Shankar aara being a wiser person he United India in some certain way that the starting some mud in um Kashi and you know Boda and stuffs like that and uh he constructed a lot of Temple on the bay and created a lot of stories even if you go to the um and the Char dams also he said this is the way you you can experience un that is in the uh um the four corners of India four corners of India if you travel every dedicated to Shiva and two dedicated to Krishna H different forms and then Vishnu H Vishnu and Incarnation yeah so you can see the shangar dams there so he is the reason behind all these uh Regional stories like you know so if we go back and back and back and back and back and back the real teaching the real ancient teachings comes from Vedas uh so the um I mean in in The Vedas also almost 99% of vaa is actually prayers only 1 percentage is spirituality you know and this 1 percentage of the spirituality is being converted in open uh the philosophy of this uh uh why it is all these thing and how you can experience self all these things has been uh clearly in open so this is how I see this okay and regarding the Mahia connection with the nine planets and the LNA or the Ascend so that's what I'm to say that's what I'm trying to say these are the stories which is been tried to connect like you know we can connect Mars is the aggressive planet and we can connected with one of the mahavidya and you know the particular planet can have some quality in um you know some Gods either it can be mahavidya and it can be Ki also Mars can go to the Ki Mars can go to the shenisha also so this this is basically philosophy spreaded across like you know which means H please continue ask the next question so which so which means that uh we really have to look deeper and go to I mean these stories are very important this gives a meaning of connectivity and uh this gives the meaning of understanding but if you really seeking the truth beyond all this you really have to go really deeper into the vas and okay so uh so any anyone can link with like for example we know as we see in various you know content available on internet and all that we get to see that K is related to Saturn and Tara related to Jupiter so anyone can change the sequence in this in that way regarding the nin planets they can actually associate Kali with some other planet and Tara with certainly you cannot you cannot see Venus is the planet of pleasure so you cannot associate Venus with Kali it's not at all possible two extreme so there should be some sense of understanding what is this particular Planet means and what is this particular concept of the Gods means I mean if you study uh it's the uh you know Vic astrology they never say it's a god it says a sankalpa Salpa means an imagination so this energy is been imagined you know it's not particular God or whatever like it's in some different dimension possible so this connection has been trying to you know unveil okay so so now that this is more clear I mean how things are being done and uh also uh uh now if someone has to says pacify the nine planets or maybe one of the few planets so one should go into the the beach Mantra of the planets or the mo Mantra of the planets or one should actually uh you know invol the one of the mahavidyas or that that's mahavidya what should one do since you are from the uh again depends on the person what is been what kind of person is that uh uh is that a person who is ready to go through some I mean what is the level of the intellect of that particular person like you know I have um spoken to one Buddhist Mong in rumuk Monastery that I had a podcast on that in that the idea is that the the thing is that unless you realize the truth you get rebirth again and again you know the moment you realize the truth you go back to the truth so so uh uh uh so the thing is that it is depends on the person's intellect and his understanding you cannot talk about the tantric things to be done by somebody who is uh um really into some remote Villages because he or she will only understand God in that particular way only so in that case you have to suggest them this is what you have to do and if this particular person has a little bit more understanding then the Tantra I mean the navaga has the yantas and it has M manra and it has mudra also the Tantra associated with this particular planet is much better okay so uh now we come to the end of the podcast so you thank you so much I mean since you have actually addressed lot of you know the queries that I had in mind and I'm sure the audience will also have those kind of questions coming to their minds also